« Reply #11 on: Monday 15 May 17 16:32 BST (UK) »
This is totally irrelevant to the OPs question but I've just noticed that they have 'Inzion' down as 'Onion' on the map.
Not altogether surprising. 'Onion' is pronouncd 'Ing-in' in various parts of Scotland, and when I saw 'Inzion' on the map, that's exactly how I would expect it to be pronounced.
I remember as a child going to order 'twa plain bradies an an inginy ane an a', which being translated means 'two plain bridies and one with onions'. Sadly, you don't seem to be able to get plain bridies these days - they all have onions in them, and I dislike the taste of onions
And while on the topic of bridies, I object to these things that purport to be bridies but have flaky pastry or (even worse) contain potatoes. A proper self-respecting Forfar bridie has shortcrust pastry and definitely no tatties.
I hadn't thought of that, but now that you mention it it's actually a very important point to keep in mind for family research in Scotland. You'd imagine that many places were pronounced and therefore spelt in a "non-anglicised" way at the time. Nothing was standard back then unlike today. I look at my own surname "McKenzie" and realise that in the past it's "correct" pronunciation is something like "McKenny" this applies to Menzies and the like too.
The "ingin" (onion) thing is something I'd heard of before.
I guess as time goes on these "Scot-isms" disappear and places names change completely.
I grew up in the 80s/90s and was actually scolded by parents for not using "proper" English so everything I said was standard English. Even although they used many Scots words themselves. I suppose it was a sign of the times. Sad but language does change.
I like a good Forfar Bridie myself, but refuse to buy it outside of Forfar, and I'm not there very much.
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