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« on: Wednesday 31 May 17 05:56 BST (UK) »
Has anyone got access to Dublin birth records I am seeking the birth of Elizabeth Jarman 1887
her parents were William and Elizabeth.

I have her marriage just her birth and maybe siblins I am seeking.

I have only limited access.

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Re: jarman
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 31 May 17 06:26 BST (UK) »
I see a marriage of a William Jarman and Elizabeth Wynne in 1889 and a son William in 1892, could that be the correct family?

Marriage
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1889/10734/5913678.pdf

William birth
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1892/02337/1874357.pdf

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Re: jarman
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Re: jarman
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 31 May 17 06:40 BST (UK) »
Thank you for this info

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Re: jarman
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 31 May 17 06:41 BST (UK) »
wasn't really sure on her date of birth but she died in1950 aged 60yrs so she must be the right Elizabeth.

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Re: jarman
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 31 May 17 06:47 BST (UK) »
Not to many with that name in Dublin so it looks good.
Was her father's occupation on her marriage cert?

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Re: jarman
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 31 May 17 06:56 BST (UK) »
There is church records as well
Marriage
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01k6y/

I just noticed, the marriage is COI and the Census says Catholic.

The father William died 1902
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1902/05687/4603050.pdf
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Arran_Quay/Clarke_s_Cottages/54840/
No daughter Elizabeth
Does all this fit with what you know about the family?

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Re: jarman
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 31 May 17 07:21 BST (UK) »
Yes  I noticed on census William was born in England  which was a surprise and worked in the barracks in Dublin.

Elizabeth married a soldier who was in the barracks and came from England.

They came back to England.

Where they both died.

They had no children.

Thank you for all this info shown up a couple of surprises.

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Re: jarman
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 31 May 17 10:00 BST (UK) »
Shortly after the 1911 census the family seemed to have moved to 103/104/105 Grangegorman.

William jnr died of Pulmonary T B and Pneumonia age 19 of 105 Grangegorman
transcribed as Germain on death cert but buried in Glasnevin cemetery as Jarman
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1911/05381/4501865.pdf

John married Frances Bates in 1914
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1918/09703/5519584.pdf
John died same address 1951 informant was his son William born 1920
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1951/04506/4185030.pdf
His wife Frances had died 1922
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1922/05073/4391663.pdf

Margaret died 1931 informant her sister Josephine
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1931/04904/4329815.pdf

their mother Elizabeth died 1925 informant son John
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1925/05010/4368342.pdf

All of the above are buried in Glasnevin Cemetery with the exception of William snr and Josephine.
http://www.glasnevintrust.ie/genealogy/results/index.xml

maybe of interest but could just be coincidence
Henry Jarman a soldier in Richmond Barracks  son of Henry Jarman married Jane Connolly in 1903
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1903/10246/5728926.pdf
written into the church register as Henry German son of Henry and Ellen Farrelly of West Eilay ?London
http://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633798#page/172/mode/1up
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