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Completed. Marriage William Simpson /Sarah Wharmby 1872
« on: Saturday 01 July 17 14:24 BST (UK) »
Hello,
I cannot be certain that Wharmby was Sarah's maiden name. Could somebody help me, please?
Here is what I am certain of :
William Simpson born in New Mills 29 April 1838, married Sarah Wharmby in 1872 in New Mills, he died 15 october 1915 in New Mills, is interred in St George Cemetery in New Mills tumb nb 6 with his wife Sarah , 2 daughters , and in laws.

On FreeBMD someone put a postem saying Wharmby was the name of her former husband John Wharmby , her maiden name being DOVE.

But ,still on FreeBMD I found 2 marriages of a John Wharmby and interesting Sarahs :
John Wharmby and Sarah DOVE quarter june 1861 Mansfield (Nottinghamshire)
and John Wharmby (father : John) and Sarah WHARMBY (same surname)(her father :George) 26 september 1869 Stockport .
This couple living in Stayley Lancashire/Cheshire in 1871 just having had a child Joseph (Census 1871).

William and Sarah were methodists.

Can somebody have a look at the marriage certificate to see if there is extra info (name of the fathers, witnesses...)? Or any idea ?

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Re: Marriage William Simpson /Sarah Wharmby 1872
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 01 July 17 14:53 BST (UK) »
I don't have access to any of the PRs but doesn't this look like Sarah in 1871?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VB6B-HKX

The 8 year old niece Elizabeth shows up on the 1881 as a step-daughter to the SIMPSONs. (I think.)

Maureen



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Re: Marriage William Simpson /Sarah Wharmby 1872
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 01 July 17 15:02 BST (UK) »
WHARMBY, ELIZABETH, no Mothers mn*****
GRO Reference: 1862  S Quarter in HAYFIELD  Volume 07B  Page 620
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Marriage William Simpson /Sarah Wharmby 1872
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 01 July 17 15:16 BST (UK) »
1851 Census
James Wharmby 39
Ann Wharmby   38
Elizabeth Wharmby 10
SARAH Wharmby 9*****
Ann Wharmby   7
Martha Wharmby 5
John Wharmby   3
Hannah Wharmby 1
William Thomas   59
James Wharmby 73

1861 Sarah is mistakenly down as James Wife on Anc;
James Wharmby 48, Widower
Sarah Wharmby   19, Daug******
Ann Wharmby   17
Martha Wharmby 16
John Wharmby   14
Hannah Wharmby 12
Ellen Wharmby   7
James Wharmby 5
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)


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Re: Marriage William Simpson /Sarah Wharmby 1872
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 01 July 17 15:28 BST (UK) »
It appears to me that Sarah was never married before she married William Simpson.
She is unm in 1871 Census that Maureen found and the ones I added confirm siblings.


SIMPSON, ELLEN  ANN, Mothers mn     WHARMBY***
GRO Reference: 1875  M Quarter in HAYFIELD  Volume 07B  Page 748

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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Marriage William Simpson /Sarah Wharmby 1872
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 01 July 17 15:43 BST (UK) »
Going back further;
WHARMBY, ELLEN, Mothers mn WARHURST***
GRO Reference: 1852  D Quarter in HAYFIELD AND GLOSSOP  Volume 07B  Page 53   
    
WHARMBY, MARTHA, Mothers mn WARHURST****
GRO Reference: 1845  D Quarter in HAYFIELD & GLOSSOP  Volume 19  Page 530

WHARMBY, ELIZABETH, Mothers mn WARHURST***
GRO Reference: 1840  D Quarter in HAYFIELD AND GLOSSOP  Volume 19  Page 493

Marriage;
21 May 1839, St Mary, Stockport, Cheshire, England
James WHARMBY, Father JAMES to Ann WARHURST, Father JOHN
Both of full age
(Source Familysearch.Org)



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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Marriage William Simpson /Sarah Wharmby 1872
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 01 July 17 15:51 BST (UK) »
 :) :)
All looks good to me,Trish!

As regards the Postem to the marriage-the Sarah DOVE/John WHARMBY couple are still quite married in 1881 in Mansfield.
Birth of one of their children:
WHARMBY, LUTHER  TYNDALE      mmn DOVE     
 1865  J Quarter in MANSFIELD  Volume 07B  Page 56
 

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Re: Marriage William Simpson /Sarah Wharmby 1872
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 01 July 17 15:58 BST (UK) »
Thanks Maureen, good work on your part finding Sarah 1871.

This I am sure is the 1841 Census in Derbyshire from Familysearch.Org.(cant find it on Anc!)

James Wharmby      M   60-64   Derbyshire
James Wharmby      M   30-34   Derbyshire
Ann Wharmby      F   25-29   Derbyshire
Thomas Wharmby      M   20-24   Derbyshire
Elizabeth Wharmby      F   0   Derbyshire
William Thomas      M   45-49   Derbyshire
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Cummins, Miskelly(IRELAND + NZ) ,Leggett (SFK + NFK ENGLAND + NZ),Purdy ( NBL ENGLAND + NZ ), Shaw YKS, LANCs + NZ), Holdsworth(LINCS +LANCS + NZ), Moloney, Dean, Fitzpatrick, ( County Down,IRE) Newby(NBL.ENG, Costello(IRE), Ivers, Murray(IRE),Reay(NBL.ENG) Reid (BERW.SCOTLAND)

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Re: Marriage William Simpson /Sarah Wharmby 1872
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 02 July 17 08:06 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Thank you very much for all this .
I agree That the Sarah you found isi William's wife.