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Birth and parents of Henry Smith
« on: Monday 03 July 17 21:49 BST (UK) »
I am trying to find out more about a Henry Smith, born circa 1838 in Broomhills, Northumberland, according to census records 1871, 1881, 1911, and his wife Margaret Elliott, born Biddlestone Edge, Northumberland, in 1845. I just cannot find out any more about them, e.g. birth / baptism certificates, parents, siblings. Anyone out there help, please?

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Re: Birth and parents of Henry Smith
« Reply #1 on: Monday 03 July 17 21:51 BST (UK) »
Hello - do you know when Henry and Margaret married?

Their marriage certificate * should give their fathers names/occupations to search on census and witness names may also help if family names  :)

* was the marriage in Northumberland 1862?
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Re: Birth and parents of Henry Smith
« Reply #2 on: Monday 03 July 17 22:01 BST (UK) »
From FreeBMD:

Marriage, June qtr 1862
Castle Ward Registration District     10b, page 341

Smith, Henry
+ and, on the same page +
Elliott, Margaret
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Birth and parents of Henry Smith
« Reply #3 on: Monday 03 July 17 22:14 BST (UK) »
Broomhill is a village in Northumberland, in England. It is situated to the south-west of Amble, a short distance inland from the North Sea.

Broomhill is split into two, as it lies on the border of two districts: Morpeth (the county town of Northumberland) and Alnwick.

Broomhill lies in the parish of Warkworth.


So, this birth looks good?
June qtr 1838
Alnwick Registration District     vol 25, page 191

Smith, Henry
Mother's maiden name of Wilcox, according to the GRO Index Search.


And another possibility?
March qtr 1838
Morpeth Registration District     vol 25, page 257

Smith, Henry
No mother's maiden name - which usually means an illegitimate birth.
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)


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Re: Birth and parents of Henry Smith
« Reply #4 on: Monday 03 July 17 22:16 BST (UK) »
The GRO birth found above has mothers maiden name Wilcox.
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Re: Birth and parents of Henry Smith
« Reply #5 on: Monday 03 July 17 22:26 BST (UK) »
Another birth in Alnwick RD:

SMITH, JANE        WILCOX      
GRO Reference: 1840  M Quarter in ALNWICK UNION  Volume 25  Page 212
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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Re: Birth and parents of Henry Smith
« Reply #6 on: Monday 03 July 17 23:38 BST (UK) »
Yes, marriage was in 1862, in Ponteland. I have their daughter's birth certificate which led me to the father and mother's names. I had got confused about Broomhill, since there is another Broomhill over near Ridsdale, which is a long way from the focus of the family.
What has stumped me is the inability to find Henry on the 1861 or 1851 census, just nowhere does Broomhill come up as a birthplace for a Henry Smith 1838ish.
I had only seen the marriage on the BMD in Ancestry, so not as much info. as you have suggested, thank you.
Thanks, KGarrad and Milliepede, I will follow up your suggestions.

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Re: Birth and parents of Henry Smith
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 04 July 17 00:18 BST (UK) »
1862 marriage is on Family Search

Name    Henry Smith
Birth Date    1839
Age    23
Spouse's Name    Margaret Elliott
Spouse's Birth Date    1845
Spouse's Age    17
Event Date    19 Apr 1862
Event Place    Ponteland, Northumberland, England
Father's Name    Richard Summers
Spouse's Father's Name    William Elliott
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Re: Birth and parents of Henry Smith
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 04 July 17 00:23 BST (UK) »
Also from FS

Name    Richard Summers
Birthplace    Of Shadfen
Spouse's Name    Margaret Smith
Spouse's Birthplace    Of Hepscott
Event Date    17 Dec 1851
Event Place    Morpeth, Northumberland, England
Father's Name    Matthew Summers
Spouse's Father's Name    Henry Smith
Marital Status    Single
Spouse's Marital Status    Single
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