Harris Marriage Help

[Lensmeister]

Morning all,

By trial and elimination I think I have stumbled across a possible marriage I wasn't aware of:

If anyone has access to the details of the marriage of William John Harris and Susanna Holt
Lambeth 4 209 Mar quarter 1840.

I need the following about William if possible,:
Bachelor/Widower?
Occupation?
Fathers Name and occupation?

Thanks in advance

[nanny jan]

William John Harris married Julia Ann Lewis;  no Susanna Holt shown on the FreeBMD entry. 

That WJ Harris (bachelor) is shown as a bricklayer, same occupation as his father John.

[rosie99]

The William J Harris & Susanna Holt marriages are both in Lambeth in 1840 with same reference but different quarters
Harris is March - Holt is Sept

[Lensmeister]

The William J Harris & Susanna Holt marriages are both in Lambeth in 1840 with same reference but different quarters
Harris is March - Holt is Sept

Sorry Rosie.

I have so many Williams and Georges I searched the wrong one.

I'm looking for a George Harris marrying a Susanna between 1839-1841.

Reason is I have the 1851, 1861 census and both show Susanna being  15 odd years younger than him. Also Susanna would have been 12 when she had a couple of My William's older brothers !!!

[rosie99]

I assume this is the family in 1851
H0107/1563 f512 p51

George Harris   45
Susanna Harris   30
Charles Harris   18
Thomas Harris   16
Ann Harris   14
William Harris   12
Arrid Harris   9
Caroline Harris   3
all children except Caroline bn Walworth - Caroline bn St Georges (Southwark I assume)

From the childrens ages I would think it likely that Susanna was mother to Caroline and the others were children of Georges first wife 

[rosie99]

Possibly Carolines birth reg
HARRIS, CAROLINE       mmn MATTHEWS     
1848  June Quarter in SAINT GEORGE THE MARTYR SOUTHWARK  Volume 04  Page 466
 

[Lensmeister]

I assume this is the family in 1851
H0107/1563 f512 p51

George Harris   45
Susanna Harris   30
Charles Harris   18
Thomas Harris   16
Ann Harris   14
William Harris   12
Arrid Harris   9
Caroline Harris   3
all children except Caroline bn Walworth - Caroline bn St Georges (Southwark I assume)

From the childrens ages I would think it likely that Susanna was mother to Caroline and the others were children of Georges first wife 

Spot on with the census Rosie.

So I did a search on Marriages for George Harris marrying a Susanna between 1838 and 1841 (yep a late one but thought it prudent to cover all bases)

Only one marriage matches:
Dec Quarter 1839 14 511.  Wandsworth &c.
George Harris
Susanna Durham.

If This is the right couple then, Arrid and Carline would be their children. Not sure if William would have been.

If (yes a lot of ifs) on the marriage William is a Widower or divorcee that might explain things. Also Maybe the marriage shows if William's birth place/parish as Hampshire then that'd be good too.

The Harris' were all Ostlers, Cabmen, Horsekeepers and such likes.

Thanks for the help Rosie.

[Comberton]

In case it could lead to George’s first marriage, there is a group baptism that matches the children’s names

30th June 1837 Walworth
Charles Harris born 1831
Thomas Harris born 1834
Hannah Harris born 1837
Parents George Harris & Harriet

[Lensmeister]

In case it could lead to George’s first marriage, there is a group baptism that matches the children’s names

30th June 1837 Walworth
Charles Harris born 1831
Thomas Harris born 1834
Hannah Harris born 1837
Parents George Harris & Harriet

That's cool thanks. It could yet lead to William's parentage. William being born C1839.

These Harris' have been confusing me for donkeys years.