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First marriage of Daniel Birmingham, Liverpool, around 1842 sought
« on: Friday 08 September 17 17:28 BST (UK) »
The new facility at GRO that provides the maiden name of mothers in birth records is very nice!
However, I am still at a loss with the following problem:
Daniel Birmingham and his wife Mary have, according to the 1861 census Liverpool 8 children; from William born 1842 to Elizabeth born 1862. [RG09 2661 98 20]  I can find the births of the last five children in the GRO, and this provides the maiden name of the mother: CATON. (The 1861 also shows a sister-in-law named Bridget Keatuy, a somewhat difficult spelling of Caton.) However, I seem to be unable to find the births of the first three children. Looking for the marriage of the parents, I find a marriage of Daniel Birmingham and Mary Caton on 23 May 1849, Liverpool. Thus, the first three children were either born out of wedlock or in an earlier marriage of Daniel.  However, I seem to be unable to find the maiden name of the first three children through the GRO. Any suggestions to find this maiden name and the first marriage of Daniel are welcome.

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Re: First marriage of Daniel Birmingham, Liverpool, around 1842 sought
« Reply #1 on: Friday 08 September 17 17:41 BST (UK) »
Have you got Daniel on the 1841 census, please?

Also family in 1851?

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Re: First marriage of Daniel Birmingham, Liverpool, around 1842 sought
« Reply #2 on: Friday 08 September 17 17:42 BST (UK) »
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Re: First marriage of Daniel Birmingham, Liverpool, around 1842 sought
« Reply #3 on: Friday 08 September 17 17:45 BST (UK) »
I wonder if Daniels first marriage might have been in Ireland.

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Re: First marriage of Daniel Birmingham, Liverpool, around 1842 sought
« Reply #4 on: Friday 08 September 17 17:46 BST (UK) »
He was born in Ireland, so an Irish first marriage certainly looks possible.

They are Bermingham in 1851 - eldest son (James, 17) born Ireland.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: First marriage of Daniel Birmingham, Liverpool, around 1842 sought
« Reply #5 on: Friday 08 September 17 17:47 BST (UK) »
He was born in Ireland.

They are Bermingham in 1851 - eldest son born Ireland.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGYH-BNF
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Re: First marriage of Daniel Birmingham, Liverpool, around 1842 sought
« Reply #6 on: Friday 08 September 17 17:49 BST (UK) »
If the eldest child in 1861 is aged 19, and Daniel's wife is aged 31 in 1861, then Daniel has been married before! 

As said by others  :D

Added:   Oops, should have read the earlier responses  :-[ :-X
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Re: First marriage of Daniel Birmingham, Liverpool, around 1842 sought
« Reply #7 on: Friday 08 September 17 17:50 BST (UK) »
From familysearch

William Bermingham
Birth Date   04 Aug 1840
Christening 09 Aug 1840
Christening Place   St Anthonys, Liverpool, Lancashire
Father   Daniel
Mother   Anne
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Re: First marriage of Daniel Birmingham, Liverpool, around 1842 sought
« Reply #8 on: Friday 08 September 17 17:56 BST (UK) »
Two deaths for Ann Birmingham in Liverpool:

Sep qtr 1845, aged 40
Dec qtr 1847, aged 34
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)