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Hi all,
In case you were still pondering on my Maggie puzzle... I've put together all the facts found by you lovely people as well as what I've found and organized them the best I could.
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Maggie
Cameron/Noble Smith
Born 1888, ScotlandMother of Daisy Edna
Swinbourne (nee
Noble,
Fredenburg). My maternal grandmother.
On Daisy’s birth record shows that Maggie
Cameron is her mother and Edward
Noble is her father, married in Scotland
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~births/N_Surnames.htm7502-11 (Toronto)
NOBLE, Edna Daisy, f, b. 20 July 1911 at St. Michaels Hospital; father - Edward
NOBLE, motorman; mother - Maggie
CAMERON; infm - Nellie Lyttle, nurse; parents married - 12 Feb 1906 in Scotland
However, the only Noble/Cameron marriage (which doesn’t fit, so maybe they weren’t really married) in Scotland was:
NOBLE ERNEST EDWARD
HENDERSON ANNIE T
1906
466/ 13
Clackmannan
Daisy was adopted by Hiram John
Fredenburg (1878-1929 Ontario) & Sarah Jane Delill (1876-1958) around 1918, and are shown on the Toronto Census:
Hiram J
Fredenburg 43 Sarah
Fredenburg 43
William H
Fredenburg 22 Daisy E
Fredenburg 9 Student.
Ancestry tree is showing Edward W
Noble born 1886 Fraserburgh, Aberdeenshire to Peter and Jane
Noble. 1901 census 32 Mid Street 2 Gordon's Court Aberdeenshire.
Peter Noble 61
Jane Noble 59
Francis R M Noble 25
Alice Noble 24
Henry A Noble 21
Edward W Noble 15
Marriage given as 12 February 1906 Fraserburgh Aberdeenshire.
BUT, Edward married an Isabel and lived in Quebec, Canada. They had a daughter named Isabel and they moved back to Fraserburgh so he could enlist in the war, during which he died in 1918.
I’ve recently been in touch with a relation on this particular Edward, and had her DNA done, and if Edward were my we should be 4th cousins and get a match. We don't.
Maggie then married Henry George
Smith on 29 June 1912 in Toronto, Ontario, and they had 2 sons, William Arthur in 1913 and Harold in 1915.
On the marriage certificate, Maggie lists her birthplace as
Nairn, Scotland, Henry George’s as Glasgow Scotland. Maggie lists her father as Angus
Noble, and mother as Annie Ross.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-Y399-QQJG?cc=1784216=====
In Nov. 1909 there is a border crossing (by train) for a Maggie
Noble (aged 23, so 2 yrs older than we are looking for). She is listed as a domestic worker, living in Toronto, born in Nairn, Scotland, with a relative of brother Joseph
Noble, at 3 Simpson St, Nairn, and traveling to a Mrs. Lloyd A Woolley at 112 Herkimer (?) St, Buffalo, New York. Passage paid by a Mrs. McDuffy. However, she was debarred from entering the USA, as she was labelled a criminal.
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searching Joseph
Noble at 3 Simpson St, Nairn. In 1901 there was a Margaret
Noble (in her 60's) living at that address. Looking at other people living in the area, and according to Google maps, less than a one minute walk away, at 18 Harbour St. in 1901, is this:
Name:
Angus NobleAge: 64
Estimated birth year: abt 1837
Relationship: Head
Spouse's name :
Annie NobleGender: Male
Where born: Croy, Invernesshire
County: Nairnshire
Address: 18 Harbour St
Occupation: General Labourer
Household Members:
Angus Noble 64
Annie Noble 50
John Noble 23
Margaret Cameron 13 scholar, boarder, born 1888 in Rafford, ElginshireGeorge McLeod 28
James Free 30
Thomas Connell 59
William Noble 16
Annie Ross as found on Scotland’s people
http://pardoes.info/jandap2016/2037.htmIf this is Angus Noble and Annie nee Ross, could this be Maggie Cameron that took on their name??
From the thread and combined with my search, we’ve found:
Margaret
Cameron born 23 Aug 1888 in Fernalea, Rafford.
Parents: William
Cameron, farm servant and Jane Cameron MS
StephenParents married 20 Jul 1888 Rafford
Informant, father William
Cameron residing Parkend, Bullet Loan, Forres
(have document downloaded from Scotland’s People)
Parkend Bulletloan Forres:
Forres, St Leonard's Road, General
Formerly named Bullet Loan, as named on 1st edition 1:2500 Elginshire 1870-76.
(Undated) information in NMRS.
Marriage of parents:
20 Jul 1888 in Fernielea
William
Cameron 23y Lockshice(?) Rafford -- Farm Servant
Jane
Stephen 17y Fernielea, Rafford -- Domestic Servant
Groom’s parents: George
Cameron -- Salmonfisher, Margaret
Ross -- Fieldworker
Bride’s parent: Jane
CummingWitnesses: Charles Edward Taylor, James Cameron, Jane Cumming
(have document downloaded from Scotland’s People -- attached)
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could be the same Maggie Noble ..Possibility she is the daughter of Robina Priest Cameron
Robina Priest Cameron born 1863 Elgin illegitimate daughter of Margaret Cameron
Robina Priest Cameron married a David McNeill 1889 Elgin
1891 census in Elgin Moray 8 Murdochs Wynd
Robina McNeil age 28 (sick nurse )
Henry H McNeil age 7
Maggie A McNeil age 4 born 1887 Rafford
George McDonald 9 months ( boarder )
Bella McDonald 5 ( boarder )
I was playing around with this, but the facts weren’t fitting for me.