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Re: Maggie Cameron - Noble - Smith (Toronto and area)
« Reply #225 on: Sunday 24 September 17 00:21 BST (UK) »
BB, I think we're very hot but we still need to confirm a few things...

Where is OUR Maggie in 1911 for the census & is she the 1 who was disbarred?

I'm unsure of the Canadian census date for 1911?

What happened to baby Victoria?

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Maggie Cameron - Noble - Smith (Toronto and area)
« Reply #226 on: Sunday 24 September 17 00:47 BST (UK) »
Where is OUR Maggie in 1911 for the census & is she the 1 who was disbarred?

She may have snuck across the border to get to her job with the Woolley's, or if they just booted her off the train, she would have to go through Quebec to make her way back to Toronto.  I doubt we will ever know.
She is the one that is debarred as the border crossing states the ship she arrived on, and there is also the address of 5 Simpson St Nairn on the documents.

I'm unsure of the Canadian census date for 1911?

It commenced June 1911, but given the amount of remote areas, it wasn't completed until Feb 1912.

What happened to baby Victoria?

We will never know.  If she survived infancy, she was probably given up to for adoption.


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Re: Maggie Cameron - Noble - Smith (Toronto and area)
« Reply #227 on: Sunday 24 September 17 01:04 BST (UK) »
So, after 200+ posts, are we done?  Do we get to open that case of wine yet?  ;D

It sure looks like it now as the true identity of OUR Maggie (Noble) has been confirmed as Margaret Cant/Cameron regarding at least her mother for now & it looks as though DNA is the only way to prove whether Alexander Cameron was indeed her father & I hope so  ;D

Good combined effort & a very enjoyable thread  :)

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Maggie Cameron - Noble - Smith (Toronto and area)
« Reply #228 on: Sunday 24 September 17 01:23 BST (UK) »
Definitely enjoyable!

Hopefully Sara is successful at the cemetery tomorrow!


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Re: Maggie Cameron - Noble - Smith (Toronto and area)
« Reply #229 on: Sunday 24 September 17 01:51 BST (UK) »
Hopefully Sara is successful at the cemetery tomorrow!

For sure but wouldn't it be the icing on the cake to find out who Edna Daisy's father was & I hope Sara will return with any details for that link in the future when it's known.

Annie
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Maggie Cameron - Noble - Smith (Toronto and area)
« Reply #230 on: Sunday 24 September 17 03:28 BST (UK) »
At the library check to see if they have anything on the Shetton Road House of Refuge.  If that is your Maggie using her legal name of Cameron it might explain how she came to be offered a position in Buffalo.  If she didn't end up at that particular institution she might have ended up in a similar one to have her daughter.  It might also explain why there is no birth registration.  It might have been entered into a registry at the refuge and not forwarded on.  It might also account for the disappearance of Victoria.  Child might have been adopted into another family from the house.
Lots of suppositions but unless Maggie had gainful employment she could have been in such a place.

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Re: Maggie Cameron - Noble - Smith (Toronto and area)
« Reply #231 on: Sunday 24 September 17 15:40 BST (UK) »
FRASER MARGARET
MACKAY ALEXANDER 1909    123/ 14 Nairn

That marriage may be significant after all?

Although this entry is a good time prior to 1909 the surname & residence hints at a possible connection & maybe a son/g son of this Alexander?

1885 MACKAY ALEXANDER Tenant Occupier CROFT OF CHAPELTON MOSS FORRES VR010900031-


This is a couple of links which may be of interest...

This one approx. half way down page (I have omitted some of the text)…

https://www.ancestry.com/boards/thread.aspx?mv=flat&m=1341&p=localities.britisles.scotland.mor.general

“my gt gt gt aunt had a child called mary Ann Newlands Cant born 5 July 1874 to Mary Cant from Chapelton Moss. Mary had a further 8 children and died a spinster in 1928 and is buried in Dyke”


http://digital.nls.uk/directories/browse/archive/85597845

1855 - Long time Tenants at Chapelton Moss

CANT JOHN Tenant Occupier CROFT AT CHAPELTON MOSS FORRES  VR010900001-
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FRASER MARGARET MRS Proprietor CROFT OF CHAPELTON MOSS FORRES 1855 VR010900001-

Annie




South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"

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Re: Maggie Cameron - Noble - Smith (Toronto and area)
« Reply #232 on: Sunday 24 September 17 21:28 BST (UK) »
Got up early to check when the Cemetary is open for visitors... CLOSED SUNDAY.  Wha?
So sad... my cousin was going to meet me there and everything.
Another day I guess. My grandmother's still born baby (before my mother) is in the cemetery as well.

THANK you everyone for all your time and help on Maggie!

Currently gathering facts for the day I can get to the archives.

And also currently researching Cameron DNA links, to see if I can link them to any Camerons related to Alexander. There has been a large number of Camerons in the DNA, but so far, none from Nairn. Lots from Fodderty: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fodderty
Swinbourne, Hunt, Maxwell, Taylor, Williamson, Burt, Cant, Cameron, Leavesly, Cooper, Rankine, Taylor, Anderson

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Re: Maggie Cameron - Noble - Smith (Toronto and area)
« Reply #233 on: Sunday 24 September 17 22:04 BST (UK) »
The very old Ancestry quote is me!!
AREA, Nottinghamshire. Lincolnshire. Staffordshire. Leicestershire, Morayshire.
Paternal Line--An(t)(c)liff(e).Faulkner. Mayfield. Cant. Davison. Caunt. Trigg. Rawding. Buttery. Rayworth. Pepper. Otter. Whitworth. Gray. Calder. Laing.Wink. Wright. Jackson. Taylor.
Maternal Line--Linsey. Spicer. Corns. Judson. Greensmith. Steel. Woodford. Ellis. Wyan. Callis. Warriner. Rawlin. Merrin. Vale. Summerfield. Cartwright.
Husbands-Beckett. Heald. Pilkington. Arnold. Hall. Willows. Dring. Newcomb. Hawley