Look up request for birth date/place John Smith Father of Vere and Edward Smith

[Elizlloyd]

Hi

I searching for a birth / baptism for John Smith as Im stuck working further back on this Smith line and would welcome any help with this.

John Smith Married Elizabeth Jones 8th Feb 1796. St Mary's Church, Monmouth, Monmouthshire, which is close to Caldicot.

Edward Smith, 26 Jul 1804, Father John. Baptised St Bridget. St Bride's Netherwent.

Vere Smith Baptised 19 May 1806, St Bridget, St Bride's NetherwentElizabeth Smith 30 March 1817,

Elizabeth Smith 30 March 1817 Baptised St Bridget. St Bride's Netherwent;

Thanks

Elizlloyd

[osprey]

there are other baptisms to the couple in St Bride's Netherwent
Ann bp 25  May 1823
Hannah bp 21 June 1818
Father John noted as labourer on both and abode as L(l)andevenny

There are burials in Magor, abode noted as L(l)andevenny on all
William Smith aged 4 months buried 10 June 1817 son of John & Elizabeth, transcription has Jas but register shows Jn^o.
Martha Smith aged 8 buried 9 May 1820 
John Smith aged 65 buried 10 March 1825
Hannah Smith aged 28 buried 24 June 1846
Elizabeth Smith aged 88 buried 24 Nov 1862

1841 census Common, Llandevenny HO107/746/14 folio 2 pg 11
Elizabeth Smith 60
Thomas Smith 30 ag lab
both born in county

1851 Llandevenny, HO107/2451 folio 42 pg 16
Elizabeth Smith head widow 70 ag lab b. Magor
Thomas Smith son unm 40 ag lab b. Llandevenny
Hannah Smith granddau 16 b. Penhow
John Smith grandson 7 b. Magor

1861 Llandevenny RG9/4614 folio 39 pg 21
Elizabeth Smith head widow 88 farmeress of 19 acres b. Magor
Thomas son 51 ag lab b. Llandevenny
Hannah grand dau 24 dairy maid b. Penhow
John grandson 16 ag lab b. Penhow
Emma granddau 10 b. Risca

If this is the correct family, age at burial should give you something to work from.

[Elizlloyd]

Hi Osprey,

Thank you very much for all your information in the post below, will add all this to my family's history a great find, and for John Smith's Burial and his date he was buried aged 65 buried 10 March 1825, being a labourer must have lived a hard life, and harder for his wife left behind having to support so many children..  and will calculate back to his birth date 1760 and hopefully find his parents and a birth/baptism record and place of birth for him.. and also come up with results.

Thanks ever so much

Elizlloyd

[Elizlloyd]

Hi osprey,

I have found a Monmouthshire Baptism Transcription on Findmypast for a John Smith 19 August 1759 at St Mary, Monmouth son of Samuel and Ann. and wondered if this could be the right record for my John Smith. 

Thanks

Elizlloyd

[osprey]

it could be. Is there a son called Samuel? I haven't come across one yet so that makes the baptism look less likely.

 

[osprey]

think I've found a more likely baptism in a nearer parish to St Brides Netherwent

John bp 30 May 1763 son of Thomas Smith in Llanfihangel juxta Roggiet

siblings also baptised in same parish
Edward bp 14 Feb 1758
Thomas bp 5 Oct 1759
Vere bp 7 July 1761

all names that appear in your John's family.

[Elizlloyd]

Thanks osprey,

This definitely feels like this is the right baptism for John Smith 30 May 1763 Llanfihangel juxta Roggiet and father Thomas Smith and thanks for finding his siblings baptisms also in Llanfihangel juxta Roggiet as well a great find and really appreciate your post.

Thanks very much indeed.


Elizlloyd

[osprey]

looks a match, doesn't it. Marriage of parents

Thomas Smith married Mary Taylor, a minor, 17 May 1756 in Magor by licence, both otp and by consent of Mary's guardian, witnesses Vere Smith and Richard Branson.

A possible for the Vere who was the witness is the Vere son of Edward Smith bp 5 Oct 1726 in Caldicot, so possible for Thomas son of Edward Smith bp 13 Nov 1729 also in Caldicot.

[Elizlloyd]

Hi osprey,

Thank you for your information that you have supplied in your post much appreciated, and feel sure that this is right going back from Vere Smith baptised 5 Oct 1726 in Caldicot to father Edward smith and having finding Edward's other son Thomas Smith b 13 Nov 1729.  So I will now look into finding more about the Smith family in Caldicot and more on Caldicot sounds very interestiing.

Thanks

Elizlloyd