help getting started

[kari]

hi.. i am new to roots chat and to genealogy. was wondering if someone could help. i am looking for my great grandparents thomas and frances allen the only real leads i have are that they lived in leigh on sea ,duke of manchester drive,essex  had 3 sons percy, norman and douglas. i have searched but seem to come to a brick wall. could someone help me get a start please.

[jinks]

Kari

Do you have any dates?
Approx dates of birth,
Order of Children Eldest to Youngest.

Would they have been alive in 1881?

      Try
          http://www.familysearch.org

Jinks

[kari]

hi jinks..  the only date i have is of percy. his death was 1917 and he was 21 when he died, my mum also mentioned a shop a corn merchants or a seed shop that thomas owned in leigh on sea.they still lived in leigh around 1935 as my mum was sent to live with them that is all i know. i have tried different spellings of their names, also checked buisiness directories, could it be they were missed in the census? or maybe i am doing it wrong i'd really appreciate any help thank you

[PrueM]

Hi Kari,
Did you know Percy died in WW1?  Here are his details from www.cwgc.org:

ALLEN, PERCY FRANCIS
Rank: Second Lieutenant
Regiment: Royal Field Artillery
Unit Text: 59th Bde. (Spec. Reserve)
Age: 21
Date of Death:    04/10/1917
Son of Thomas and Francess Allen, of "Allanholm," Duke of Manchester Drive, Leigh-on-Sea, Essex.
Cemetery: TYNE COT MEMORIAL       

Prue

[hlbradd]

Hi Kari

welcome to rootschat.

Have you looked on www.GenesReunited.co.uk ?

you can do a person search - loads of Allens !

There are also message boards so you can see if anyone else is researching in the same area.

It's free to register and build your tree online - but if you want to contact another person on the site you have to pay a small subscription (about £10 a year I think) - or hope that they see your names and want to contact you!

All I can say is I will be renewing my subscription when it comes up - definitely worth the money!  I have found loads of cousins of one sort or another on here.  

If you want me to contact anyone on this site on your behalf let me know.

Helen

[Tati]

Hi Kari,



1901 Census  
RG13/207
Folio 149 p. 16 
Stoke Newington, London

4 Warwick Rd

Thomas Allen, head, 31, Gun Action Maker, b. London Bethnal Green
Frances Allen, wife, 27, b. London Islington
Percy Allen, son, 5, b. London Stoke Newington
Norman Allen, son, 1, b. Stoke Newington
Douglas Allen, son, 1, b. Stoke Newington

Tanja 

[Tati]

This seems to be the most likely match for Thomas in

1891 Census:

RG12/1065
Folio 151 p. 52
Hornsey, Middlesex

17 Warwick Road

Thomas Allen, head, 48, Bricklayer, b. Hoxton
Sarah, wife, 48, b. Brentford
Sara, dau, single, 24, Dressmaker, b. London
Walter, son, single, 23, Compositor, b. London
Thomas, son, single, 21, Gun Maker, b. Bethnal Green

Tanja 

I'll let you check them out in 1881 by yourself at www.familysearch.org or www.ancestry.co.uk

[Tati]

Me again 

Have found the birth references of Norman and Douglas:

Births June quarter 1900
Registration District Edmonton
Volume 3a p. 362

(Both children on the same page)

and this should be Percy's:
Births June quarter 1896
Edmonton
Volume 3a page 299

If you order a birth certificate for one of them, it will tell you their mother's maiden name. 

Tanja 


 

[Tati]

Sorry, should have mentioned where I found the info:

http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/

Which is not complete, but very useful.

Tanja