Author Topic: Taylor family in Scotland  (Read 3423 times)

Offline myself1

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 33
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Taylor family in Scotland
« on: Tuesday 21 November 17 15:17 GMT (UK) »
hoping someone out there can help put some more info to my Taylor family in Scotland this is what I have so far
William Taylor born ? married ? his son William Taylor baptized 6 April,1691 Torpichen Kirk married Janet Creif on 19 Sept, 1702 at Findo Gask Perthshire, then their son Alexander Taylor was born 4 Oct, 1713 he married Anne Kynock on 2 Oct, 1745 at Tibber More Church then their son
Alexander Taylor born 17,DEC,1747 married Elizabeth Wilson on 27th,Aug,1777 in Perth then their son Alexander Taylor born 31,May,1789 in New Burg, married Elizabeth Simson, then their son
William Taylor born 1816 New Burg, married Janet Keddie on 12,July,1841 in Auchtermuchty Fife,then their son Robert Taylor born 1850 in Auchtermuchty Fife married on 21,May,1877 Elizabeth Howie in Kings Clear New Brunswick Canada.

Only other info I have is children of William Taylor & Janet Keddie are as far as I know
Margaret Taylor born 1843
David Taylor born 1847
Robert Taylor born 1850 ,My gg grandfather
Janet Taylor born 1852
John Taylor born 1855
Agnes Taylor born 1857
Helen Taylor born 1861

any info on any of the above would be great Thank You all in advance

Offline ev

  • Global Moderator
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 7,803
  • Drumkilbo
    • View Profile
Re: Taylor family in Scotland
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 21 November 17 20:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi , welcome to RC  :)

This looks like the family on the 1851 Census(FreeCEN transcription)
Crosshill , Auchtermuchty , Fife(all born Auchtermuchty Fife)
William Taylor 34 hand loom weaver linen
Janet Taylor 34 wife
Thomas Taylor 12 son weaver apprentice
Margaret Taylor 9 dau
May Taylor 5 dau
David Taylor 3 son
Robert Taylor 10 months son

Have you managed to verify your tree ?
There's a death for a Janet Taylor(other surname Keddie) , age 57 , 1874 Auchtermuchty Fife and a likely death for a William Taylor , age 63 , 1879 Auchtermuchty Fife.(https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/)


ev

Added -
https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?count=20&query=%2Bfather_givenname%3Awilliam~%20%2Bfather_surname%3Ataylor~%20%2Bmother_givenname%3Ajanet~%20%2Bmother_surname%3Akeddie~
Census information Crown copyright , All Census information from transcriptions - check original records , Familysearch/IGI is a finding tool only - check original records

Online Forfarian

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 11,265
  • Never trust anything you find online .....
    • View Profile
Re: Taylor family in Scotland
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 22 November 17 07:44 GMT (UK) »
Torpichen
Torphichen

Quote
married Anne Kynock on 2 Oct, 1745 at Tibber More Church
Tibbermore - all one word.

The marriage is unlikely to have taken place in the church building. The normal thing was for the wedding to be held in the bride's home or, if she had no parents or was married a long way from their home, in the manse or in her employers' house.

Quote
in New Burg
Is this Newburgh, and if so is it Newburgh in Fife (the most likely)? There is another village of Newburgh in Aberdeenshire, besides various farms of the same name all over the country.
Researching

AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; GUTHRIE, Angus; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes/Mortlach; MENDUM, England; MOLLISON, Lethnot; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOR(R)I/E/Y, Shotts; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Angus; YOUNG, Keith


Offline myself1

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 33
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Taylor family in Scotland
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 22 November 17 14:59 GMT (UK) »
Thank you
I have not myself verify any of this as a friend did the research for me. I am not in Scotland I am in Canada.
But am sure the info is correct.
I do not know what year that Robert Taylor born 1850 left Scotland and went to New Brunswick, he married in 1877 Elizabeth Howie , in Kings Clear New Brunswick Canada. On his marriage certificate it has his parents as William Taylor & Janet Keddie. I have seen this myself as I have a copy of the marriage certifacate.

I am not sure if NewBurg is one or two words.

Online Forfarian

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 11,265
  • Never trust anything you find online .....
    • View Profile
Re: Taylor family in Scotland
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 22 November 17 18:08 GMT (UK) »
am not sure if NewBurg is one or two words.
I am sure. I can absolutely guarantee that there is no place in Scotland called New Burg or Newburg  :)

The baptisms of the older children are not listed on www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk, which means that the records of their baptisms. if they ever existed, have not survived. However the statutory registers of births list John, born 2 January 1855; Agnes, 3 June 1857; and Helen, 2 May 1861. 1855 birth certificates are genealogical gold mines, because they contain information not collected in any other year.

Ev has given you a transcription of the 1851 census, and a likely death for Janet Keddie or Taylor. I noted that a William Taylor, aged 63, died in Auchtermuchty in 1879, so I took a look at that death certificate. This was indeed William Taylor, married to Janet Keddie, but he was not the son of Alexander Taylor and Elizabeth Simson. His parents, according to his son David who registered the death, were Thomas Taylor and Mary Ann Gillchrist.

So I am sorry to rain on your parade, but what your friend gave you is incorrect. It looks as if your friend has found a likely-looking candidate of about the right age, and has assumed that because there isn't another likely candidate, this must be the right one. This is a very common mistake. It is never safe to make such an assumption because there are so many people whose baptism records have not survived. You may as well throw away the rest of what your friend found, because it is based on a rather fundamental error.
Researching

AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; GUTHRIE, Angus; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes/Mortlach; MENDUM, England; MOLLISON, Lethnot; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOR(R)I/E/Y, Shotts; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Angus; YOUNG, Keith

Offline ev

  • Global Moderator
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • ********
  • Posts: 7,803
  • Drumkilbo
    • View Profile
Re: Taylor family in Scotland
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 22 November 17 18:46 GMT (UK) »
From what others had I did suspect all was not correct ,  Forfarian  :(

However I did see this -
1851 Census(FreeCEN transcription)
Crosshill , Auchtermuchty , Fife
Thomas Taylor 79 pauper formerly brewer b. Errol Perth
Mary Ann Taylor 72 wife pauper b. Edinburgh Midlothian
Euphemia Adam 10 grndau yarn sizier b. Auchtermuchty Fife

From memory there is a possible death for this Thomas 1855(age 83) in Auchtermuchty.

Death for a Mary Ann S Taylor(other surname Gilchrist) , age 85 , 1862 Auchtermuchty Fife.


ev
Census information Crown copyright , All Census information from transcriptions - check original records , Familysearch/IGI is a finding tool only - check original records

Online Forfarian

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 11,265
  • Never trust anything you find online .....
    • View Profile
Re: Taylor family in Scotland
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 22 November 17 18:57 GMT (UK) »
Good find, ev  :)
Researching

AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; GUTHRIE, Angus; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes/Mortlach; MENDUM, England; MOLLISON, Lethnot; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOR(R)I/E/Y, Shotts; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Angus; YOUNG, Keith

Offline ruthhelen

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 345
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Taylor family in Scotland
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 22 November 17 19:03 GMT (UK) »
Good find indeed ev.

And as well as the death of Thomas Taylor in 1855 (mother's maiden name Braes) - there's also a possible death for Mary Ann S Taylor (other name Gilchrist) in Auchtermuchty in 1862 - no mother's maiden name indexed by the looks of it, but still - a bonus to have both of them die after 1855  ;D

Ruth
McArthur, Milne, Mitchell, Black, Robertson, Morrison, Slessor, Lawrence - Aberdeenshire/Banffshire. Muir, Waddell, Fraser, Orr, Cowden - Lanarkshire/Renfrewshire/Dunbartonshire. Dalziel, Dalzell, Gourley, Cromie, Crombie, Bell - Co Down. Haymon, Baker, Corke, Cooley, Ginger - Kent/London.

Online Forfarian

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 11,265
  • Never trust anything you find online .....
    • View Profile
Re: Taylor family in Scotland
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 22 November 17 19:15 GMT (UK) »
There's a baptism of Thomas, son of James Taylor and Margaret Braes, in Errol on 3 September 1775.

There's also a baptism of Peter Taylor, parents James Taylor and Elizabeth Braes, on 4 May 1777.

So the question arises, which one is the one the clerk got wrong?
Researching

AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; GUTHRIE, Angus; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes/Mortlach; MENDUM, England; MOLLISON, Lethnot; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOR(R)I/E/Y, Shotts; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Angus; YOUNG, Keith