Kate OVERTHROW [ne GILL]c 1871

[NormanE]

I can’t find any reference to Kate OVERTHROW or her young children after the 1911 census.
Living at Gloucester for the census she was widowed in 1912 when husband Charles Leonard OVERTHROW died aged 44
Help and clues would be appreciated.
NormanE

[mirl]

Possible marriages for the children:

Charles Leonard to McKee Gloucester 6/1914
Harold Victor to Checkley Aston 9/1914
Rhoda Kate to Platt Gloucester 3/1917
Albert Edward to McKee Gloucester 3/1918
Reginald Arthur to Matthews Gloucester 6/1920
Edith Rose to Bate Aston 12/1921
Ivy Mabel not found
Wilfred Herbert not found
Doris Emma Grace to Matthews Gloucester 9/1933

[Kay99]

An Ivy Mabel Overthrow is listed in the Electrol Roll in Gloucester between 1930 and 1967 -until the later years with a Walter James Wood. 

In post 1960 she is  living with a Marlene G Overthrow and Graham K Wood. Although I can't find a marriage to Walter James Wood it is possible Ivy might have died as Ivy Mabel Wood Birth 6 Jun 1902 Death Mar 1981 Gloucester (although the age appears a year out)

I can't find their mother Kate but you may find the children on the 1939 Register on FindMyPast

Kay

[Kay99]

In Electrol Registers Wilfred Herbert Overthrow is living with Rhoda K and James Platt

There is a marriage in Gloucester in Gloucester March Qtr 1917 Gloucester 6a   532 of a James Platt to a Rhoda K Overthrow (which mirl found) !!!   

Could the 1917 marriage be the mother rather her daughter??   There is a death of a Rhoda K Platt Age 89  Dec Qtr 1960 Gloucester Rural  Vol   7b  Page 507

Kay

[NormanE]

Miri and Kay 99
Thanks for your interest.
Rhoda Kate was born in 1894 so can’t be the missing Kate.
I knew of her children’s marriages. It has just occurred to me, the children’s school attendance records might at Gloucester Records. That will be a line to follow in the new year.
Otherwise any help is most welcome.
Seasons Greetings
NormanE

[lizdb]

Rhoda Kate was born in 1894 so can’t be the missing Kate.
I knew of her children’s marriages.

1) Yes, the daughter was bn 1894. But the 1917 might be a remarriage for mum, rather than a first marriage for the daughter. mm may have actually been Rhoda Kate, rather than plain Kate?

2)Your first post said you knew nothing of Kate or her children after 1911 - that's why people spent their time looking for marriages for the children. Now you say you had the childrens marriages .... so you DID know something about the children after 1911!

[keyboard86]

Hi is this Kate in 1881 census:-

Charles Gill 44 b Devon
Rhoda 31 occ Tailoress b Bedminster
Kate 10 b Bedminster
RG11/2533/29/16

As Kate looks to be here in 1871 census:-

Ann King 60 b Portsmouth
Rhoda King 19 occ Tailoress b Bedminster
Kate King 5 months Grandaughter b Bedminster
Census ref RG10/2507/82/4
Keyboard86

[keyboard86]

Hi again would I be correct that in 1911 census with Overthrow family is a Charles Gill 74 b Countess Wear, Devon
If so he is shown as Single?

A Rhoda Gill dies Sept qtr 1889 Gloucester 6a 161 aged 38

With a mother Rhoda a daughter Rhoda Kate, I would not be suprised if the 1917 marriage was "Kate" as the death appears to bear out a c 1870/1 birth year.

This leaves the problem if in fact this is the case what happened to Rhoda Kate Overthrow b 1894 after 1911 census?
Keyboard86

[NormanE]

I think all of you have helped me and solved the problem for me
Kate became Rhoda Kate for the 1917 marriage. Kate’s mother was Rhoda. Rhoda Kate c 1871 died in a probable retirement home in 1960 aged 89 as R K Platt
Rhoda Kate Overthrow c 1894 married Charles Bullock in 1918.
Thank you all for taking the trouble to sort me out
NormanE