Joseph Coldery. c1832. Abingdon, Berkshire.

[bucksboy]

!s there anyone with access to Abingdon Pr's.

Looking for a possible baptism, with father William Coldrey.

There obviously are variations of the surname, so it will not be easy.

There is a possible marriage for a William COWDROY, in Headington, to Harriete COPPOCK. 10 Feb 1834. (OxFHS-Marriage Index).

Married in 1858, St Nicolas Without, City of Dublin. to Susan Bouhan aka Bowning or Bowen.

No death found for him, to narrow down his year of birth.  Last noted in Chester, in the 1901 census.  Retired Royal Artilery pensioner, and widowed. living with married daugter, Ann Jane Cushion.(1859, Kildare).

Thanks for looking.

Steve.

[Eyesee]

There is this marriage at Abingdon St Helens

William COULDREY and Sarah STIMPSON  5 Nov 1826.

No sign of a child Joseph as yet.

Ian C

[bucksboy]

I did see a marriage in Grove, but that was way before the 1830's, possibly 1740's from memory.  Just another place in the area which peaked my interest.

Thanks for looking. At least it's Abingdon, and another variation of the name.

Steve.

[LizzieL]

There is this marriage at Abingdon St Helens

William COULDREY and Sarah STIMPSON  5 Nov 1826.

No sign of a child Joseph as yet.

Ian C

could be this couple in 1841, no sign of a Joseph or a space for him in the list of children.

HO107 / Piece number 32 Book number 10 Folio number 9  Page number 17

[bucksboy]

As he was in the Army, Royal Artillery......the first time in census is 1881, in Woolwich, but by 1859, he was in Kildare, Ireland.

Not sure how young the Army took them in those days, but it was quite young, by most reports........8-9 years old, that maybe too young, but who knows,

I do have the baptisms for his children, the last one being in Aldershot, in 1865.

All the census, from 1841 to 1881, seem right, going by the one you mentioned.  So, time will tell, regarding any Baptism for him.

Thanks for looking.

Steve.

[bucksboy]

Slight update.  Died in 1903, West Derby(Liverpool).

His year of birth is closer to 1835/36, according to his Military records.

Still no nearer to finding this chaps baptism.

Steve.

[ribbo39]

Hi Steve,

I looked thru the Abingdon transcripts for the 3 parishes (St.Helens unfortunately only goes upto 1812) without success.
I then had a look on Anc..y and found a couple of trees, one of which referred to a Joseph Couldrey born about 1833 Besselsleigh.
My records for this parish showed a Joseph Couldry bapt.  1-12-1833 s/o James & Emma,  abode- St.Helens Abingdon.
Alas, there is a burial for Joseph 17-6-1835  (20 mths) Besselsleigh with the abode listed as Sandford/St.Helens, Abingdon.

Looking further I then came across this bapt. entry also in Besselsleigh;
10-1-1836 Joseph Couldry s/o James & Emma of the same abode.
The only drawback is,  you said his father was William.

If this is the correct family to follow then James Couldry was bapt. 13-11-1791 s/o John & Mary of St.Helens, Abingdon No sign of a marriage as yet.

Alan

[ribbo39]

Hi Steve,
You may already have this, but,  I meant to mention that Anne Jane Coldrey was bapt. 1-1-1860 (born) 21-11-1859 d/o Joseph & Susan , Private 9th Brigade, Royal Artillery.
Also;
16-7-1865 Sarah Coldery (born 1-7-1865)
15-9-1867 Susan     "           "    5-9-1867 parents Joseph & Susan
there is also a marriage ;
20-3-1858 Joseph Coldery, bach, to Susan Boucher, sp, St.Nicholas, Dublin in what looks
like 2nd Bde, RA

Do you have copies of these?

Alan

[LizzieL]

As he was in the Army, Royal Artillery......the first time in census is 1881, in Woolwich, but by 1859, he was in Kildare, Ireland.

Not sure how young the Army took them in those days, but it was quite young, by most reports........8-9 years old, that maybe too young, but who knows,

I do have the baptisms for his children, the last one being in Aldershot, in 1865.

All the census, from 1841 to 1881, seem right, going by the one you mentioned.  So, time will tell, regarding any Baptism for him.

Thanks for looking.

Steve.

I have a relative who was born in 1800, joined the army as a Bugler when he was 11, became a Private at age 18, but didn't actually attest until he was 30 by which time he was a second corporal.

Although looking at your ancestor's service record it seems to start with his attestation when he said he was 21. Do you think he could actually have been younger and lied about his age so there was no query about him being under age?