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Mary Ann Belcher 3x birth/bapts in Berks 1858-59
« on: Tuesday 22 May 18 05:01 BST (UK) »
Hi all,

Can anyone please help with the baptisms/births of these 3 x Mary Ann Belcher.

I'm trying to identify if either or all fit into my tree.

Mary Ann Belcher - born about 1858 West Hanney, Berks - per 1871 census Wantage.
   "      "       "          - birth regis mar ¼ 1859 Wantage Regis dist.
   "      "       "          -    "      "    dec ¼  1859 Wallingford "      "

I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction. I've looked in the Wantage transcripts also those for the Wallingford dist without any luck and my Hanny records only go to 1812.

Many thanks in advance for any help.

Alan
Browse, Peggs, Revans/Revance/Ribbans, Spall,   in Suffolk/Norfolk
Belcher, Elderfield, Froude, Saunders,  Stimson, Tame,   in Berks
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Re: Mary Ann Belcher 3x birth/bapts in Berks 1858-59
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 22 May 18 05:19 BST (UK) »
From the GRO:

Mary BELCHER Dec qtr 1859 Wallingford has mother's maiden name SMITH
Mary Ann BELCHER Dec qtr 1859 Wallingford - mmn SADLER
Mary Ann BELCHER Mar qtr 1859 Wantage - mmn BRAYNE

There are no Mary Ann's in 1858 registered at Wantage, but there is:
Mary Ann BELCHER Sep qtr 1857 Wantage - mmn GREENAWAY

Do you know the parents at all?

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Re: Mary Ann Belcher 3x birth/bapts in Berks 1858-59
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 22 May 18 05:46 BST (UK) »
Hi maddys52,

Very grateful to you for the mmn's. The only "greenaway" I have come across is  on the 1851 census West Hanney - Daniel Belcher, Elizabeth, his wife,  and son  Henry Greenaway & a Martha Belcher dau .  I'm assuming that Henry was the illeg. s/o Elizabeth. The parent's names are not known to me which is why I'm trying to find out who is who.

Unfortunately there are a lot of "Belcher's" around and frequently they are baptising them with the same first names.

Alan
Browse, Peggs, Revans/Revance/Ribbans, Spall,   in Suffolk/Norfolk
Belcher, Elderfield, Froude, Saunders,  Stimson, Tame,   in Berks
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Re: Mary Ann Belcher 3x birth/bapts in Berks 1858-59
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 22 May 18 07:03 BST (UK) »
Did she marry?

You can get her fathers name from the marriage certificate.

Do you know the names of brothers or sisters to narrow it down?


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Re: Mary Ann Belcher 3x birth/bapts in Berks 1858-59
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 23 May 18 01:19 BST (UK) »
What information do you have about your Mary Ann, do you have her in a later census?

The Mary Ann who appears in the 1871 census at Wantage, born at West Hanney is probably this one in the 1861 at Back St, West Hanney: (all born West Hanney)

Daniel Belcher        40    West Hanney, Berkshire  (ag lab)
Elizabeth Belcher    35    
Amilia Belcher          12    
John Belcher          8    
Sarah Belcher          5    
Mary A Belcher         3    
Tom Belcher         1    

RG09/736 / 158 pg 4

From the births of their children, I think this is Daniel BELCHER and Elizabeth GREENAWAY who married Dec qtr 1846 Wantage (6/495)

(Btw, I also have a Mary Ann BELCHER from this area in my tree, but born c1832  ;) There were a lot around!)

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Re: Mary Ann Belcher 3x birth/bapts in Berks 1858-59
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 23 May 18 04:41 BST (UK) »
The Mary Ann reg Mar qtr 1859 Wantage is at High St Bridgnorth in 1881:

John L Belcher            62    Wantage, Berkshire  (ironmonger)
Emma E Belcher       51    Battersea, Surrey
Joseph Belcher             32    Wantage
Mary Ann Belcher    22    Wantage
Emmily M Belcher    12    Wantage
Arthur J Belcher            11    Wantage
Edward Belcher       9    Wantage
Elsie Jane Belcher      6    Wantage
Frederick Arthars    Apprentice    17    Wednesbury, Staffordshire
Ellen Bowdler            Servant       18    Tapley, Staffordshire

RG11/2629/7 pg 6

John Lewis BELCHER married Emma Eliza BRAYNE Sep qtr 1853 Wandsworth (1d/720)

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Re: Mary Ann Belcher 3x birth/bapts in Berks 1858-59
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 23 May 18 05:18 BST (UK) »
The Mary BELCHER born Dec qtr 1859 Wallingford is at Little Wittingham in 1871:

William Belcher    40    Little Wittenham, Berkshire (ag lab)
Maria Belcher    38    North Moreton, Berkshire
Mary Belcher    11    Little Wittenham
Alice Belcher    9    Little Wittenham
Alfred Belcher    7    Little Wittenham
Thomas Belcher    5    North Moreton
Ann M Belcher    1    Little Wittenham

GBC/1871/1272/0281

William BELCHER married Maria SMITH reg Dec qtr 1858 Wallingford (2c/699)

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Re: Mary Ann Belcher 3x birth/bapts in Berks 1858-59
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 23 May 18 05:25 BST (UK) »
Hi maddys52,

My problem is that I have come across several Mary Ann Belchers 3 of which I listed in my initial post.

Only last night I came across another one - there are so many!!.

1/. Mary Ann born about 1858 Wantage dist. is the d/o Daniel & Eliza (nee Greenaway) mar. 29-11-1846 West Hanney (ex ancy)

2/. Mary Ann born abt 1859 Wantage dist is the d/o J L Belcher & Emma Brayne  mar 1-8-1853 Wandsworth, Surrey

3/. Mary Ann born abt 1859 Wallingford Dist. shows on the 1871 census Wantage age 13 as a servant - no other family listed. (mmn Smith per your reply below).

4/. Mary Ann born abt 1853 Uffington d/o Alfred & Leah

5/. I've also got a Mary Belcher born 1839 Wantage dist. with mmn Warren - Can't find a possible marriage yet.

6/. Also a Mary Ann born 1846 Streatley, Berks d/o Henry & Amy

I think some of these tie up with your comments

Alan
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Re: Mary Ann Belcher 3x birth/bapts in Berks 1858-59
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 23 May 18 05:35 BST (UK) »
maddys52,

Thanks for your last reply - thats excellent news;

North Moreton, Berks
18-12-1858 William Belcher, fa, bach, labr, Little Wittenham, s/o William, labr to
                   Maria Smith, fa, sp, servant, Nth Moreton d/o Jonathon, labr
wits; Matthew Belcher, Sophia Smith
That takes care of the Mary Ann Belcher birth regis dec ¼ 1859 Wallingford Dist.

One off the list.

Alan
Browse, Peggs, Revans/Revance/Ribbans, Spall,   in Suffolk/Norfolk
Belcher, Elderfield, Froude, Saunders,  Stimson, Tame,   in Berks
Artis, Gray in Norfolk