The Rome family

[Jenny1]

A few years ago I did this family history for my friend's dad but unfortunately he has lost it so I am trying to piece it back together for him. I had some great help from a couple of people but I can't make head or tail of my notes. This is what I am trying to find:

According to his headstone (in Dornock) JOHN ROME was born 1772 and "married" Georgina Gordon ( I can't find a marriage). He was buried with THOMAS ROME b 1734 who married Elizabeth Bell. I assumed Thomas/Elizabeth were his parents but I've now found a baptism for John but father is named as JOHN which is confusing me!!

I was wondering if anyone had researched this family and could help.

Jenny

[Rosinish]

I think if John was the son of Thomas it would be unusual for the MI not to show the relationship i.e. their son or similar although I may be wrong?

What were the names of Johns' children in order?

Annie

[Jenny1]

The children of John & Georgina are

Thomas 1811    Matthew 1812   Margaret 1816  Elizabeth 1818  Robert 1826 and William 1828.

According to the baptism I found, John's parents were JOHN & Elizabeth Bell, but as he is buried with Thomas who was married to Elizabeth Bell, I wondered if John died and Elizabeth then married Thomas who might have been his brother?? Just wish I could find marriages for both couples.

Jenny

[Rosinish]

According to his headstone (in Dornock) JOHN ROME was born 1772 and "married" Georgina Gordon ( I can't find a marriage). He was buried with THOMAS ROME b 1734 who married Elizabeth Bell. I assumed Thomas/Elizabeth were his parents 
I've now found a baptism for John but father is named as JOHN which is confusing me!!

I think you've found a baptism for 'a' John which may not necessarily be your John?

Not all children were baptised & not all records have survived.

If the 'scottish naming pattern' was used then it's very highly likely you're looking at a wrong baptism?

Thanks for the names of the children & I will add the naming pattern which looks to have been in use !?

Thomas 1811 (Paternal g/f)   
Matthew 1812 (Maternal g/f)
(Possibly a missing birth here & male although a female who dii/dy is also possible & next female named the same after maternal g/m)?
Margaret 1816 (Maternal g/m)
Elizabeth 1818 (Paternal g/m) 
(Large gap here with possibly at least 2 children missing)?
Robert 1826 
William 1828

I think the reason there was no indication of relationship was down to £s as each letter costs?

Of course I don't know for sure but there's a hint of the 'pattern' there?

Annie

Add, when did John & Georgina die, was it pre 1861 census?

[Jenny1]

John died 1856 and Georgina died in 1862. On the 1861 census she is living with unmarried son William and a grandson John.

Thanks for working out the naming pattern. Never thought of doing that before.

Jenny

[Rosinish]

Death on scotlandspeople site;

ROME JOHN 83
BELL (mms)
1856
819/ 8 Dornock (Dumfries)

Should confirm the name of his father

Annie

[Jenny1]

Thank you so much for your help Annie.

Jenny 

[Rosinish]

I couldn't find a death for Georgina in 1862 but this looks to be her & possibly known as Gina which morphed into Jean(a) without the 'a'?
This should confirm her to be the widow of John but there's no matching ref. no. with m/s i.e. I would expect whoever registered her death didn't know those relevant details & no age showing (not even a guess)? but of course I may have the wrong person?
If indeed it's Georgina, I wouldn't expect her parentage to have been known going by what's on the index?

scotlandspeople.gov.uk

ROME JEAN 1864
819/ 15 Dornock (Dumfries)

Annie

[robbiesmum]

Hi Jenny
I have a photo of the gravestone at Dornock, if you send me a PM with your email address I can email you a copy.
Georgina Rome died in September 1862 at Windermere, Annan; her death seems to be indexed in scotlandspeople as Jemima, but is definitely the right one. Parents Francis Gordon labourer and Helen Halliday.

Robbiesmum