Author Topic: Rubbathan 1725  (Read 632 times)

Offline Gadget

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 47,321
    • View Profile
Re: Rubbathan 1725
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 09 October 18 11:10 BST (UK) »
Hi

I'm one of the people who gave you the info on the 1841 in Frodesley. He was born circa 1766. Is this the same person or is the 1725 one his father/grandfather ?

There's an Edward Rubathan/Rubothon  aged 75 in Row, Frodesley

Edward, 75, Ag lab
Edward, 25, ag lab
Hannah, 30
Christinah, 20
Jane 3
Edward , 1

All born county

HO107/910/7/3/1





Gadget
Census &  BMD information Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and GROS - www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

RootsChat is the busiest, largest free family history forum site in the country. It is completely free to use. Register now.
Also register instantly with Facebook or Twitter (and other social networks). Start your genealogy search now.


Offline ShaunJ

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 16,431
    • View Profile
Re: Rubbathan 1725
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 09 October 18 13:07 BST (UK) »
My apologies but I had the wrong death registration. This is the correct one:

RUBBERTHAN, EDWARD    age 76  March Quarter 1842 in Atcham, volume 18  page 9
 
UK Census info. Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

RootsChat is the busiest, largest free family history forum site in the country. It is completely free to use. Register now.
Also register instantly with Facebook or Twitter (and other social networks). Start your genealogy search now.


Offline Gadget

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 47,321
    • View Profile
Re: Rubbathan 1725
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 09 October 18 15:47 BST (UK) »
My apologies but I had the wrong death registration. This is the correct one:

RUBBERTHAN, EDWARD    age 76  March Quarter 1842 in Atcham, volume 18  page 9
 

Yes, that's the one - I think it's on the other thread  :)
Census &  BMD information Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and GROS - www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

Offline BronwenS

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 282
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Rubbathan 1725
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 09 October 18 20:34 BST (UK) »
Kia ora

I am working on two fronts:
The first one - which I think we have sorted.
Edward Rubbathan husband of Jane Colley
b.1762 Aug 22 parish of Frodesley, reg. Atcham, Shropshire
m.1792 Sept 2 Jane Colley, Frodesley, Shropshire Eng. (copy of banns 12 Aug 1792)
d.1842 Mar>May Atcham, Shropshire, Eng. (Rubberthan)
Census1841
Edward Rubathan/Rubothon 75 Ag. Lab. Row, Frodesley, Edward, 25, Ag Lab, Hannah 30, Christinah 20, Jane 3, Edward 1

Rubbatham   Edward      1842   1842   Staffordshire, Dioceses Of Lichfield And Coventry Wills And Probate 1521-1860   Frodesley, Shropshire, England
according to the oath made by daughter Hannah for the granting of Letters of Administration.
The papers can be viewed on FindMyPast  https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBPRS/STAFF/007623760/00566&parentid=GBPRS/STAFF/WILLS/491871
It's a kind of probate in cases where there is no will. The death was registered in Montgomery Registration District. (According to the GRO online index, he was 88. ). The probate court record (Edward Rubbatham) says that he was a resident of Frodesley.

And Edwards father, Thomas whose marriage bonds are held in the National Library of Wales who I have emailed to see if I can join to access that document and possibly establish who Thomas'  parents are.

Possible parents of Thomas Rubbathan
Gulielmi & Ann Rubbathan or ) both had children named Thomas baptised
William & Ann Rubbathan       ) on the same day in Berriew
1774 Nov. 21, Edward Shuker, of Cardington, Farmer, & Ann Rubbathan, of Frodesley, sp., lic ... mar.
1778 May 1, Isaac Jones, of Forden, & Elizabeth Rubbathan, lic ... ma

1725 Rubottom / Rubathan / Rubothon / Rubbatham / Rowbotham / Rowbathon / Rubaton
Thomas Rubbathan/Rowbathon husband of Sarah James
b.1725 Oct 10 Berriew, Montgomeryshire, Wales
m.1761 June 22 Aberhafesb, Montgomery, Montgomeryshire (copy of banns)
d.

The marriage bond, held at the Nation Library, is Rowbathon, which is what it looks like on the register.
It might be worth ordering a copy because it may have details of parents - http://discover.library.wales

  Title:
Rowbathon, Thomas, bach., yeoman, Montgomery, Montgomeryshire to James, Sarah, sp., Aberhafesb, Montgomeryshire : 1761 Jun 20.
  Is Part Of: Marriage bonds, ca. 1690-1837 99230987302419
  Description: Marriage at Aberhafesb.
marriage bond.
  Creation Date: 1761

Many thanks for your help and interest.
Bronwen Christchurch NZ
Campbell, McKenzie, Ross, MacKay, Munro, Sutherland all of Ross & Comarty
Barry, Gibson, Watson, Summers, Edmonstone, Brock, McCartney all of Glasgow and environs
Erskine, Fletcher of Edinburgh

Offline Gadget

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 47,321
    • View Profile
Re: Rubbathan 1725
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 09 October 18 21:05 BST (UK) »
Just to say, Bronwen, don't get too excited about the marriage bond. The ones that I've had only mention a parent if one or both are under age and, even then, not always.

I've obtained quite a few from the National Library.


Gadget
Census &  BMD information Crown Copyright www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and GROS - www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

Offline BronwenS

  • RootsChat Senior
  • ****
  • Posts: 282
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: Rubbathan 1725
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 09 October 18 21:11 BST (UK) »
I'll try not to LOL.

Just a possibility.


cheers Bronwen
Campbell, McKenzie, Ross, MacKay, Munro, Sutherland all of Ross & Comarty
Barry, Gibson, Watson, Summers, Edmonstone, Brock, McCartney all of Glasgow and environs
Erskine, Fletcher of Edinburgh