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Re: Birth details of Robert Jones 1837 ??
« Reply #9 on: Friday 20 July 18 08:48 BST (UK) »
Familysearch have this one born c1836 Chepstow:

https://tinyurl.com/y8kmt3gh


Thanks candrjm.


Yes - its that Census 1851 record i'm trying to work off. Robert is noted as 'Nephew' with James Powell & Elizabeth Powell. I know the connection is probably right (although not sure on birth year from census) as James Powell is a witness on Roberts marriage certificate to Eliza Cornish.


Still struggling, with little Robert information to work out if Robert was Nephew of James Powell or Elizabeth ?? (as that would help with the location of Robert)

Loughglinn Ireland : Duffy (Paternal Line)
London: Baylis(s), Maynard, Dutton, Smith, Ward, Garner, Down
Brighton: Galliers, Hilton
Devon (Moretonhampstead): Dingle, Smale
Essex (North): Garrad, Hull, Bishop, Partridge, Pepper
Manchester: Duffy, Hawthorn(e), Holyoak(e)
Shropshire Wellington: Vaughan, Foreman
Suffolk: Partridge, Minter
Wales (Monmouthshire): Powell, Mayber(r)y

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Re: Birth details of Robert Jones 1837 ??
« Reply #10 on: Friday 20 July 18 09:08 BST (UK) »
Not wildly helpful, mmn Jones!

JONES, ROBERT       JONES     
GRO Reference: 1838  J Quarter in MONMOUTH  Volume 26  Page 79

If the census states that he was born in Chepstow then the birth registration would also be Chepstow.  The above is Monmouth.
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Birth details of Robert Jones 1837 ??
« Reply #11 on: Friday 20 July 18 09:24 BST (UK) »
Not wildly helpful, mmn Jones!

JONES, ROBERT       JONES     
GRO Reference: 1838  J Quarter in MONMOUTH  Volume 26  Page 79

If the census states that he was born in Chepstow then the birth registration would also be Chepstow.  The above is Monmouth.


' Not wildly helpful ' - got it in one and I felt the same when I saw 'Jones' on GRO as MMn. Could be right or a transcribe error. Hence my asking the experienced searchers on this board :)


I'm only grasping at Chepstow from an earlier post comment. I can only find Monmouthshire as I commented on my original post but, as has been highlighted, its too big an area.


There has to be a way to logically work this one out ?
Loughglinn Ireland : Duffy (Paternal Line)
London: Baylis(s), Maynard, Dutton, Smith, Ward, Garner, Down
Brighton: Galliers, Hilton
Devon (Moretonhampstead): Dingle, Smale
Essex (North): Garrad, Hull, Bishop, Partridge, Pepper
Manchester: Duffy, Hawthorn(e), Holyoak(e)
Shropshire Wellington: Vaughan, Foreman
Suffolk: Partridge, Minter
Wales (Monmouthshire): Powell, Mayber(r)y

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Re: Birth details of Robert Jones 1837 ??
« Reply #12 on: Friday 20 July 18 11:12 BST (UK) »
Have located

Thomas Jones m Susannah Jones 21 Sep 1834 through the Forest of Dean Transcriptions but can't find a Robert for a son

Just John 1835 and Mary 1837 in Llangibby (which is now in the Pontypool District.)

#clutching#straws#disappointment
Loughglinn Ireland : Duffy (Paternal Line)
London: Baylis(s), Maynard, Dutton, Smith, Ward, Garner, Down
Brighton: Galliers, Hilton
Devon (Moretonhampstead): Dingle, Smale
Essex (North): Garrad, Hull, Bishop, Partridge, Pepper
Manchester: Duffy, Hawthorn(e), Holyoak(e)
Shropshire Wellington: Vaughan, Foreman
Suffolk: Partridge, Minter
Wales (Monmouthshire): Powell, Mayber(r)y


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Re: Birth details of Robert Jones 1837 ??
« Reply #13 on: Friday 20 July 18 11:40 BST (UK) »
I know exactly how frustrating researching a common surname can be.  I've had that with a couple of my surnames.

Once you start getting to dates that are before BMD records began it gets harder.  The best you can do is to make a note of any possibilities and where you found them, so you don't repeat the same searches again.

Records are being added online all the time.  Perhaps a few years down the line the one you want will be available.

Other alternatives are to visit the relevant Record Office for the area and search there.  Perhaps the local family history society may be able to assist you in your quest.

http://www.monmouthshire.gov.uk/community-hubs-libraries/whats-in-my-library/family-and-local-history

Not sure if the Chepstow Society will be any help, but you could try writing to them.

http://www.chepstowsociety.co.uk/

Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire

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Re: Birth details of Robert Jones 1837 ??
« Reply #14 on: Friday 20 July 18 12:26 BST (UK) »
I know exactly how frustrating researching a common surname can be.  I've had that with a couple of my surnames.

Once you start getting to dates that are before BMD records began it gets harder.  The best you can do is to make a note of any possibilities and where you found them, so you don't repeat the same searches again.

Records are being added online all the time.  Perhaps a few years down the line the one you want will be available.

Other alternatives are to visit the relevant Record Office for the area and search there.  Perhaps the local family history society may be able to assist you in your quest.

http://www.monmouthshire.gov.uk/community-hubs-libraries/whats-in-my-library/family-and-local-history

Not sure if the Chepstow Society will be any help, but you could try writing to them.

http://www.chepstowsociety.co.uk/


Thank you GirlGuide.

I will take a look at the links. I accept the frustration when my 'its not going to beat me' attitude subsides lol.

I have many lines to progress and am pleased with the overall progression of my tree.

If only however, our ancestors had placed our 'future need for records' and turned up where they should, behaved themselves & made sure the spelling of surnames was consistent with the past rather than concentrate on their own troubles and curved balls of the times eh !!

I'm going to give Jones a rest and try to further another line for a while I think. I have a couple of Galliers whom I believe were soldiers in the Napoleonic War I'd like to find more about ie where / when / foot soldiers or on horseback :) 
Loughglinn Ireland : Duffy (Paternal Line)
London: Baylis(s), Maynard, Dutton, Smith, Ward, Garner, Down
Brighton: Galliers, Hilton
Devon (Moretonhampstead): Dingle, Smale
Essex (North): Garrad, Hull, Bishop, Partridge, Pepper
Manchester: Duffy, Hawthorn(e), Holyoak(e)
Shropshire Wellington: Vaughan, Foreman
Suffolk: Partridge, Minter
Wales (Monmouthshire): Powell, Mayber(r)y

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Re: Birth details of Robert Jones 1837 ??
« Reply #15 on: Friday 20 July 18 12:53 BST (UK) »
Yes, best to pop your Jones line to the back burner for now.

I think coming up against problems in family history makes it more challenging for us as researchers.  It would be a tad boring if you could find everything you were looking for very easily.  The enjoyment for most of us is the challenge of finding the link, breaking down the brick wall etc.

If it was too easy to find all we wanted, we would all be done and dusted pretty quickly.   ::)

I started family history in 2004 and there is still plenty for me to do if I so wish.   :D
Ashford: Somerset, London
England: Devon, London, New Zealand
Holdway: Wiltshire
Hooper: Bristol, Somerset
Knowling: Devon, London
Southcott: Devon, China
Strong: Wiltshire
Watson: Cambridgeshire
White: Bristol
Windo - Gloucestershire, Somerset, Wiltshire