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Re: Could I be gypsy
« Reply #45 on: Friday 27 July 18 21:14 BST (UK) »
Sorry, 'Carrier' was his occupation as  stated on the census.

No, I do not know that anyone came from Ireland, so far the Webbs that I have found are firmly rooted in Romsey.  They are not moving around, and they are not missing from censuses.  They are living in houses and doing a variety of occupations.

Even if they did come from Ireland, that does not automatically mean they are travellers.

If your family think their ancestors were travellers, do they mean the Webb family, or one of the wife's family were travellers?
They think the Webb’s could be but a lot of wife’s families could be aswell

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« Reply #46 on: Friday 27 July 18 22:23 BST (UK) »
You can research them here...


 C Reg Birth, Marriage and Death results for Southwell  http://www.rootschat.com/links/01mf0/


see if you recognize anything.
And that should be the Southwell’s in my family?


Possibly that one Southwell family that were in Ireland for a bit but came back to England.... amongst them!
I searched Hester Southwell there and it could not be found. Also is this Southwell family Irish travellers.

I don't know... you'd need to check if it says so on Certs that have Images!
Is there nothing else which could lead to them being travellers.

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Re: Could I be gypsy
« Reply #47 on: Friday 27 July 18 23:24 BST (UK) »
What is your definition of a traveller?

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Re: Could I be gypsy
« Reply #48 on: Saturday 28 July 18 00:03 BST (UK) »
What is your definition of a traveller?
Someone who is normally with a group of family who travel around in caravans etc.


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Re: Could I be gypsy
« Reply #49 on: Saturday 28 July 18 06:26 BST (UK) »
Hi crazyshotgug69,

I had been told by relatives that my family were gypsies.  I was able to establish this by looking at the Census material from 1861 to 1871 of my great grandparents and also where their children were born.  The family were listed in each Census living in tents and their children were born in Portsea, Surrey and Brighton indicating they travelled extensively.  One daughter was listed from 1881 to 1911 living in a caravan (travelling) for each Census.  I was able to establish convincingly that the family were gypsies through a newspaper article.  One of my great grandparent's children died as an infant and an inquest was held and reported in the newspaper.  The newspaper article mentioned that the family were gypsies and were at the time living in their caravan on common land and paid a small amount of money in rent to be able to do this.  The family were also Hawkers, Chair Caners, Flower Sellers and Umbrella Makers all occupations that are generally associated with gypsies.

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« Reply #50 on: Saturday 28 July 18 07:09 BST (UK) »
'Someone who is normally with a group of family who travel around in caravans '

They were not travellers from 1841 - no censuses show them in caravans, just in ordinary dwellings and staying in the same area, not travelling.

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Re: Could I be gypsy
« Reply #51 on: Monday 30 July 18 17:25 BST (UK) »
I think you are chasing after a family story and many family stories have little to no truth. It seems clear from what you have already been told by many on here that your family story is just that a story........so instead of chasing stories research your ancestors and the picture of your ancestors lives, where they lived and what they did will develop
Leicestershire:Chamberlain, Dakin, Wilkinson, Moss, Cook, Welland, Dobson, Roper,Palfreman, Squires, Hames, Goddard, Topliss, Twells,Bacon.
Northamps:Sykes, Harris, Rice,Knowles.
Rutland:Clements, Dalby, Osbourne, Durance, Smith,Christian, Royce, Richardson,Oakham, Dewey,Newbold,Cox,Chamberlaine,Brow, Cooper, Bloodworth,Clarke
Durham/Yorks:Woodend, Watson,Parker, Dowser
Suffolk/Norfolk:Groom, Coleman, Kemp, Barnard, Alden,Blomfield,Smith,Howes,Knight,Kett,Fryston
Lincolnshire:Clements, Woodend

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Re: Could I be gypsy
« Reply #52 on: Wednesday 01 August 18 00:26 BST (UK) »
'Someone who is normally with a group of family who travel around in caravans '

They were not travellers from 1841 - no censuses show them in caravans, just in ordinary dwellings and staying in the same area, not travelling.
Ok thank you, is there anyway to access the information which you have found.

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« Reply #53 on: Wednesday 01 August 18 19:17 BST (UK) »
I was using Ancestry to access information - try a free trial?

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