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Georgian Euphmism?
« on: Friday 02 November 18 15:19 GMT (UK) »
I was reading a Newgate report (a poisoning), when a strange piece of language caught my eye:

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=lJsXAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA183&lpg=PA183&dq=%22Elizabeth+Woollerton,+the+wife+of+a+farmer%22&source=bl&ots=KHoUMjCCQ7&sig=8cQp69MIYJWu9cbOZWSeEGFIA-g&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiTwPqp07XeAhUCYKwKHQi0APkQ6AEwAXoECAEQAQ#v=onepage&q=%22Elizabeth%20Woollerton%2C%20the%20wife%20of%20a%20farmer%22&f=false

"The prisoner, in her defence, persisted in her innocence, after an attempt to throw it upon her daughter, an interesting girl fourteen years of age! " [ my italics ]

No explanation of why the girl is "interesting" is present. My suspicion is that this is a coded euphemism for learning difficulties. I have found other instances that I find fairly convincing but nothing 100% solid. I will attach the evidence in following posts.

It's hard to be certain, since the phrase "interesting child" is also used in the normal way e.g. for prodigies.

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Re: Georgian Euphmism?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 02 November 18 15:19 GMT (UK) »
The Scotsman - Saturday 22 September 1821

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« Reply #2 on: Friday 02 November 18 15:20 GMT (UK) »
Womack Exeter Flying Post - Thursday 18 December 1823
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« Reply #3 on: Friday 02 November 18 15:25 GMT (UK) »
Saunders's News-Letter - Saturday 18 February 1815
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« Reply #4 on: Friday 02 November 18 15:26 GMT (UK) »
That's all I have. (all from the British Newspaper Archive, a handy source of dated material)

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« Reply #5 on: Friday 02 November 18 15:35 GMT (UK) »
I have a snippet of potential relevance; in an effort to confirm of deny my idea, I searched for the usage in the period 1870-1880. This is because the 1871 census has a column to record such matters, so I could cross check newspaper accounts versus census records.

The heading is (grimly)

Whether
(1) Deaf & Dumb
(2) Blind
(3) Imbecile or Idiot
(4) Lunatic

However I could find no examples in this period, except in Irish newspapers.

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« Reply #6 on: Friday 02 November 18 15:42 GMT (UK) »
There's nothing in the Oxford English Dictionary to suggest that sort of meaning. It has in the past been used to mean pregnant, though that's obviously not the case with a 5 or 6 year old.

One nuance, for which the latest example given is 1882, is 'engaging attention' or 'appealing to the emotions'. Perhaps, then, it was used to denote children who seemed particularly pretty, or precocious in some way**? The last newspaper extract, about the Papyruseum, certainly doesn't seem to suggest a child with learning difficulties.

** Edit: or clever girls? Sometimes they haven't been thought worth educating.

I couldn't say whether all this would apply to the 14 year old originally mentioned - at that age and in the wrong environment, pregnancy might be possible.
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« Reply #7 on: Friday 02 November 18 15:57 GMT (UK) »
assault, if she pleased. John White appeared to answer the complaint of John Marsh, for an assault on his son, an interesting child of five years old ; Mr. Marsh stated that on Saturday last between and 1 o'clock, his little boy was brought home, with ...

North Devon Journal - Thursday 25 October 1827

It's the lack of a given reason for being interesting that seems ... odd. I'm sure that it's being used as a compound noun. (*)

Unfortunately, it's also used as a perfectly normal descriptive phrase, which makes searching tricky.

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e.g. a red board is a board that is red, and a green board is a board that is green, but a black board is used by teachers to write upon with chalk!
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« Reply #8 on: Friday 02 November 18 16:03 GMT (UK) »
Someone other than me has tripped across this;

From USENET, alt.usage.english, 2003, via google groups

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/alt.usage.english/pQKiqaUnxCw/hC0qAv76WvoJ

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