1804 Birmingham marriage

[Davedrave]

I would be grateful if anyone could look up the following marriage:

Birmingham 20th June 1804 Thomas Biddle m Elizabeth Lea. I’m keen to know whether it has any information on where the bride or groom were from, or occupation. I’ve only found a rather uninformative transcript.

Thanks, Dave

[normamac]

Event Place:      Saint  Martin,Birmingham,Warwick,England.Not much help but all I could find.

Norma

[Davedrave]

Event Place:      Saint  Martin,Birmingham,Warwick,England.Not much help but all I could find.

Norma

Thank you Norma. It is probably the marriage I’m looking for, but it would have been more unequivocal if Knowle had been mentioned.

Dave

[ShaunJ]

Both "of this parish".

Witnesses Martha Eborall and Alexander Sanders.

[Davedrave]

Both "of this parish".

Witnesses Martha Eborall and Alexander Sanders.

Thanks. Isn’t “of this parish” just one of the most frustrating phrases in family history?
The witnesses don’t appear meaningful either, but it probably is the right marriage nevertheless.

Dave

[ColC]

Dave, I note your mention of Knowle, a Thomas & Elizabeth had two children baptised there one 1806 the other 1814, the latter gives the fathers occupation as Carrier. In between and after a Thomas and Elizabeth had children baptised Aston Juxta, the ones in between father a labourer two baptised 1823, one born 1819 their father a Carter, abode for all at Aston, Erdington.
I think this may be the same family but further research required.

Colin

[ColC]

The only flaw in my earlier post I assumed John 1814 had died but I cannot find a burial?

John Biddle 2/10/1814 Knowle Warwickshire

John Biddle Birth 28 Nov 1819
Baptism 6 Jul 1823 Aston Juxta Birmingham

Colin

[Davedrave]

Thank you Colin, this is interesting. I’m sure that it is the people I’m looking for. Not only that but it might explain why two second cousins of these Biddle offspring (I think: I’ll have to draw myself a diagram) from Leicestershire married in Birmingham St Martin in the mid 1830’s, and one of them settled in Aston. I could see no connection before this.

As for missing burials, I have seen and photographed the headstone of an individual who died in 1826 but whose burial is definitely missing from the parish register (and the fact that his widow moved after he died but was buried back in the hamlet with him in 1852 seems strong proof that his headstone marks his grave and is not some sort of memorial).

Dave

[ColC]

Thomas Biddle to Elizabeth Lea Marriage 20/06/1804 Saint Martin, Birmingham



I have just discovered another Thomas/Elizabeth marriage in Birmingham.

Thomas Biddle   25 Dec 1806   Birmingham, St Philip   Elizabeth Hart

Children of Thomas Biddle and Elizabeth

Baptisms
Martha Biddle 12/01/1806 Knowle
John Biddle 2/10/1814 Knowle abode Knowle Thomas a Carrier

Aston, St Peter and St Paul
Abode Erdington, Thomas a Labourer
Elizabeth Biddle born 7 Dec 1812 baptism 28 Mar 1813
Fanny Biddle born 26/03/1815 baptism 13/08/1815 burial 7 Jul 1824 Aston abode Erdington..

Abode Erdington, Thomas a Carter
John Biddle born 28/11/1819 baptism 6/07/1823
Thomas Biddle born 11/06/Last baptism 6/07/1823


1861 Sutton Road, Sutton Coldfield      
Thomas Biddle    37   Carter born Erdington, Warwickshire
Eliza Biddle    32   Born Erdington, Warwickshire
Thomas H Biddle    8   Born Sutton Coldfield
Ada E Biddle    2
 Thomas Biddle    82   Carter born Erdington, Warwickshire

Hope this might help.

Colin