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John Olman 1851 census recorded as John Hallman/Hollman -occupation?
« on: Thursday 03 January 19 11:44 GMT (UK) »
Hello all.
I am trying to decipher the occupation on the entry for John Hallman/Hollman on the attached 1851 census page image.
The man's name is actually Olman but has been recorded as what looks to me like Hallman, but Findmypast and FamilySearch render it Hollman. Family Search and MyHeritage render the occupation as "hind of 256 acres employing 5 ag labs" It is the first word that confounds them and me. Obviously "hind" is not right. To me it looks like "Fhnd" and if so would it be "farmhand"?
In the 1861 census his occupation is "cow keeper".
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Re: John Olman 1851 census recorded as John Hallman/Hollman -occupation?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 03 January 19 12:07 GMT (UK) »
Census ref HO107; Piece: 2365; Folio: 301; Page: 11

Definitely looks like it starts with 'F' - see 'Farmer' a few lines above with the same wording. It does look like F[arm]h[a]nd but they don't employ ag labs them selves. By 1861 as a cow keeper he is living in a house in a street so maybe no longer fit to run a farm?

Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON

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Re: John Olman 1851 census recorded as John Hallman/Hollman -occupation?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 03 January 19 12:13 GMT (UK) »
The Yorkshire Dictionary gives this for "hind" - farm worker:  foreman on a farm (OE hine).

A Dictionary of Old Trades gives "hind" - farm labourer.

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Re: John Olman 1851 census recorded as John Hallman/Hollman -occupation?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 03 January 19 12:14 GMT (UK) »
He won't be a Farm Hand if he is employing others. Could it be Hind meaning Farm Bailiff.

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Re: John Olman 1851 census recorded as John Hallman/Hollman -occupation?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 03 January 19 12:37 GMT (UK) »
The Yorkshire Dictionary gives this for "hind" - farm worker:  foreman on a farm (OE hine).

A Dictionary of Old Trades gives "hind" - farm labourer.

Thank you very much for this. So it is "hind". The Yorkshire Dictionary definition would be the one. The place of the census was Nunkeeling in Yorkshire.

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Re: John Olman 1851 census recorded as John Hallman/Hollman -occupation?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 03 January 19 12:47 GMT (UK) »
That's today's new fact for me then  :D
Seeking: RC baptism Philip Murray Feb ish 1814 ? nr Chatham Kent.
IRE: Kik DRAY[EA], PURCELL, WHITE: Mea LYNCH: Tip MURRAY, SHEEDY: Wem ALLEN, ENGLISHBY; Dub PENROSE: Lim DUNN[E], FRAWLEY, WILLIAMS.
87th Regiment RIF: MURRAY
ENG; Marylebone HAYTER, TROU[W]SDALE, WILLIAMS,DUNEVAN Con HAMPTON, TREMELLING Wry CLEGG, HOLLAND, HORSEFIELD Coventry McGINTY
CAN; Halifax & Pictou: HOLLAND, WHITE, WILLIAMSON