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Wadkins/ Watkins
« on: Friday 04 January 19 13:32 GMT (UK) »
I'm having trouble with my Great-Grandmothers family that were in Rotherham. This is the information I currently have.

My great-grandmother is called Elizabeth Varley. Her maiden name is either Wadkin or Watkin and I have seen it as both along records. I have her birth certificate and it states her mothers name as Annie Wadkin. She was born on 21st January 1912. There was no name down for her father.

 She was married twice. Her first marriage was to George Herbert, with whom she had 2 sons. On the record I found for their marriage her surname was down as Wadkin.

She was also married to Harry Harvey (My great-grandfather) which I bought the marriage certificate for. This states her fathers name as Joseph Watkin who was a Steel worker. She had 6 kids with Harry after their marriage sixteenth July 1945.

On all her children's birth indexes their mothers surname alternates between Wadkin and Watkin.

She died in March 1980 in Rotherham.

I am unable to find any marriage between a Annie and Joseph in the area and am a bit stuck. I have no close living relatives that would know anymore information than I have. Any help would be appreciated.
Harvey, Hawes, Theaker, Senior, Watkin, Slack, Simmons, Hague, Hillery, Graver, Houldershaw, Catchpole, Nixon, Evison, Weeden/Weedon.

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Re: Wadkins/ Watkins
« Reply #1 on: Friday 04 January 19 13:35 GMT (UK) »
If there is no father's name on the birth certificate but one miraculously appears on the marriage certificate it is very probable that it was a made up name in order to 'save face', so to speak.

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Re: Wadkins/ Watkins
« Reply #2 on: Friday 04 January 19 13:56 GMT (UK) »
Presumably this is the birth registration
Birth Mar qtr 1912   
Wadkin    Elizabeth V.    mmn Wadkin   
Rotherham    9c   1592

It looks as though her mother could be Annie Durham Wadkin. 

Annie appears to still be single in 1939  with one of Elizabeths children staying with her
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Re: Wadkins/ Watkins
« Reply #3 on: Friday 04 January 19 13:59 GMT (UK) »
Ann Durham Wadkin
Birth 12 Nov 1886
Baptism 5 Dec 1886
Rotherham Minster
Father Thomas William Wadkin
Mother Maria
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Re: Wadkins/ Watkins
« Reply #4 on: Friday 04 January 19 14:10 GMT (UK) »
The 1911 census on familysearch for Annie is incomplete for Annie but I wonder whether the lodger had anything to do with Elizabeth's conception  ::)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWKP-C93
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Re: Wadkins/ Watkins
« Reply #5 on: Friday 04 January 19 15:53 GMT (UK) »
Presumably this is the birth registration
Birth Mar qtr 1912   
Wadkin    Elizabeth V.    mmn Wadkin   
Rotherham    9c   1592

It looks as though her mother could be Annie Durham Wadkin. 

Annie appears to still be single in 1939  with one of Elizabeths children staying with her

Yes that is the registration.

 That Annie does seem to be a plausible match. Could you share where you found her in 1939. Ancestry hasn't shown me any possible matches and I'd like to check the child as well.
Harvey, Hawes, Theaker, Senior, Watkin, Slack, Simmons, Hague, Hillery, Graver, Houldershaw, Catchpole, Nixon, Evison, Weeden/Weedon.

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Re: Wadkins/ Watkins
« Reply #6 on: Friday 04 January 19 16:09 GMT (UK) »
Just search Ann D Wadkin. 

She is also appearing on 1940's electoral registers with her brother Joseph A Wadkin at 24 High Greave Road
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