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Offline jonw65

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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #27 on: Sunday 06 January 19 20:20 GMT (UK) »
Throw one in, don't know who she is at the moment.
DEAKIN, CLARA       
Mother's Maiden Surname: BOYES     
GRO Reference: 1899  S Quarter in KINGS NORTON  Volume 06C  Page 505

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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 06 January 19 20:22 GMT (UK) »
OK back to Nellie - I wonder whether she is the Ellen Stokes born 20 November 1902 whose 1910 school record in Smethwick shows her father as Thomas, of 44 Market St?

Ronald Thorn Boyes may well be a red herring & not part of this family.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 06 January 19 20:23 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: jonw65 on Sunday 06 January 19 20:20 GMT (UK)
Throw one in, don't know who she is at the moment.
DEAKIN, CLARA       
Mother's Maiden Surname: BOYES     
GRO Reference: 1899  S Quarter in KINGS NORTON  Volume 06C  Page 505

This is interesting as Louisa Weston from that 1901 was née Deakin I think.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 06 January 19 20:24 GMT (UK) »
The 1939 register for them is odd as well!!
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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #31 on: Sunday 06 January 19 20:34 GMT (UK) »
Just want to clarify/add in case anyone goes off down a rabbit hole....

...DNA tests match as a cousin with a guy living in Canada, whose grandmother was Gladys Boyes. Her sister was Nellie and this has been confirmed verbally from another cousin/aunt.

My dad also recollects both Nellie and Gladys being mentioned when he was small.

Based on other records, Smethwick and Kings Norton in particular seem to be the main area the family lived.

Our Ancestry tree has a suggestion (not proven) that Thomas Stokes' mother could be Ellen Jane Deakin born c1861 which may be where this info is coming from.

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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #32 on: Sunday 06 January 19 20:37 GMT (UK) »
I presume you know the 6 children in the 1911 census then? As you don't mention all the siblings.

Joseph is registered in 1908 in Kings Norton
Thomas is registered in 1906 in Kings Norton
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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #33 on: Sunday 06 January 19 20:42 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: avm228 on Sunday 06 January 19 19:35 GMT (UK)
Registrations:

Gladys Boyes, Jun qtr 1901 King’s Norton
Ronald Thorn Boyes, Sep qtr 1902 King’s Norton ??
Thomas Boyes, Mar qtr 1906 King’s Norton
Joseph Henry Boyes, Sep qtr 1907 King’s Norton

None of those 4 have a mothers maiden name listed

3 of them are in Smethwick with I believe the couple AVM228 mentioned from the 1901 census - he is down as H though (there is a suggested death o ancestry for a Thomas H Stokes) but she still have the Boyes surname

It has 7 children born alive to the marriage with a line drawn through it - ad no years for the marriage

There is also a Clara of the right age on there

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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #34 on: Sunday 06 January 19 20:45 GMT (UK) »
He's down as H but it's definitely a T on the image
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Re: Missing birth records
« Reply #35 on: Sunday 06 January 19 20:48 GMT (UK) »
I wonder if Thomas Stokes was originally married to Ellen  Weston

they being the parents of Clara Stokes
A Ellen Stokes died Dec 1901 aged 29
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