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Searching for Peter EBERLE, born c'1832 Prussia
« on: Wednesday 16 January 19 09:08 GMT (UK) »
Hello again,

I have another problem I need help with.

Peter EBERLE was born about 1832 at Stockstettin(?), Prussia. When he attested for the Armed Constabulary in October 1868, He was in Hokitika, a baker by occupation, aged 37 and single. He had previously served in the Wanganui Rangers (1866-67) and apparently arrived in the colony in July 1862 aboard the Johann Christian. His next-of-kin was Louisa EBERLE of Stockstettin, Prussia (perhaps a sister?)

I can’t find a record of Peter’s marriage or death in New Zealand, nor any definite information after 1869 when he was still in the Armed Constabulary. I wonder if he returned to Prussia and died there, perhaps?

Can anyone find any record of him, in any country, after 1869?

And can anyone find a record of the ship Johann Christian?

There was a Mr and Mrs Eberle living in Wellington who have been discounted. I believe that it was they that travelled to Christchurch at one point.

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ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
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Re: Searching for Peter EBERLE, born c'1832 Prussia
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 16 January 19 20:03 GMT (UK) »
Hi Spades.

Could this be him in the 1881 UK census?

1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
140, Jamaica Road, Bermondsey, St Olave Southwark, London & Surrey, England

First name(s)   Last name   Relationship   Marital status   Sex   Age   Birth year   Occupation   Birth place
Peter   Eberle   Head   Widower   Male   50   1831   Baker   Germany
Mary E   Jordan   Servant   Single   Female   23   1858   Shopwoman (Baker)   Islington, Middlesex, England
George   Boyce   Servant   Single   Male   17   1864   Bakers Lad   London, Middlesex, England

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Re: Searching for Peter EBERLE, born c'1832 Prussia
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 16 January 19 20:38 GMT (UK) »
There is a Peter Eberle ( baker ) in the London and England City Directories in 1860

1861 Census Thornhill Avenue
Peter Eberle age 32 born abt 1829  Preuben Krentznas  occupation baker
Louisa Eberlie age 22 born abt 1839 Preuben Tonernesberch wife
Peter Eberlie age 3 born 1858 Islington son
Richard Eberlie age 1 born 1860 ( Philip Richard ) son
Mary Eberlie age 24 Preuben Hochsetten ..niece
George Scherler age 26 servant

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Re: Searching for Peter EBERLE, born c'1832 Prussia
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 January 19 20:54 GMT (UK) »
Possible marriage for this couple 22 March 1856 Saint James Westminster
Louisa Fuchs
Father Richard Fuchs
Spouse Peter Eberle

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Re: Searching for Peter EBERLE, born c'1832 Prussia
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 16 January 19 21:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi Janette and Rosie,

It certainly looks like you've found him.

I'm a bit puzzled by the marriage because he said he was single when he enlisted, but he could have lied. Perhaps Louisa took the children back to Prussia before he came to New Zealand?

Can you see a death for Peter or his wife anywhere? She died prior to 1881 if he was stating the truth in the 1881 Census.

Thanks very much for finding him.

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ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
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MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: Searching for Peter EBERLE, born c'1832 Prussia
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 16 January 19 22:32 GMT (UK) »
Can't seem to find them on the 1871 Census but one of the sons Peter Eberle is with his uncle
Richard Fuchs age 46 b Germany also a baker
Hannah Fuchs age age 55 bakers wife
Richard Fuchs age 16 son
Peter Eberle age 13 nephew

Baptism for John Peter Eberle
23 May 1858
Battle Bridge All Saints Islington
Father Peter ....baker
Mother Louisa

This Peter married 26 December 1876 St Mary Spital Square Tower Hamlets
His occupation Baker father Peter Eberle also baker
Spouse Emily Campbell

Not found deaths so far for parents

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Re: Searching for Peter EBERLE, born c'1832 Prussia
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 16 January 19 22:47 GMT (UK) »
Their other son Philip Richard Eberle
US Naturalization Record
Oath date 30 October 1888
Brooklyn New York

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Re: Searching for Peter EBERLE, born c'1832 Prussia
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 16 January 19 22:54 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Rosie, very much appreciated. :)

I had not expected to find that he came to NZ from ENG and then returned there.

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ELLERKER - Beverley ERY ENG
HEALEY - IRL?
MURDOCH - Wigtownshire SCT, Otago and Westland NZ
PALING - Nottinghamshire ENG
RILEY - Flamborough; Cottingham; South Dalton ERY, Manitoba CAN, & London ENG
STURTON - Arnold, Nottinghamshire ENG
SUTTRON - All, NRY & DUR ENG
TAYLOR - London ENG
TYLER - London ENG
TERNAN/TIERNAN - Dublin IRL

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Re: Searching for Peter EBERLE, born c'1832 Prussia
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 17 January 19 01:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi Spades,

I expect you have had a good look at Archives?

Not sure if these entries are all for your Peter......

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=22350131

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=24407976

https://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewFullItem.do?code=24428134

There are other entries as well.

The last one above is about:

From: Ex 1st Class Sergeant Eberle, London Date: 23 March 1880 Subject: Applies for his parchment certificate


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HAMMOND, Cainham/Caynham, Shropshire, U.K. Otago-NZ.
GALBRAITH, Ireland, Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Kensington-London, U.K.
GRANT, Sct., Dunedin, Otago-NZ., Vancouver, Canada.
GLASS, Aberdeenshire, Otago-NZ.
CAIRNEY/CARNEY/KEARNEY/Ireland, Airdrie, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
O'BRIEN Mary Ann, Limerick, Otago-NZ.
NICOL(L) James, Scotland, Otago-NZ.
SCOTT Thomas, Shetland, Otago-NZ.
MCHARDY/MCHARDIE Euphemia, Scotland, Otago-NZ.