Catherine Alice Aleder circa 1869

[RodEast]

I am seeking help with information regarding Catherine Alice Aleder (the surname used when she married James Prayle in March 1888 in Mile End London).  I believe she was born circa 1869 in Stepney and that her father was called Caspar.  I have found a census entry for a Caspar Alader born circa 1830 in Hesse, Darmstadt given as a Lodger in the Tower of London.  There is a marriage entry for Casper Allder to Jane Connor in the 4th qtr 1864 in St George in the East, London ref 1C 931 but this is all the information I have been able to find.  Any help will be appreciated.
RodEast

[nanny jan]

The parish register entry for Catherine's marriage gives Caspar's occupation as tailor; same occupation given on the marriage entry of Caspar and Jane.  Caspar's father shown as Conrad, a cabinet maker.

Catherine's baptism (Catherine Alice Alleder) gives a birthdate of 9th March 1868 with her baptism on 9th January 1869 at St. George in the East, Stepney.  Father Caspar, a tailor, and mother Jane. Address:  3 Pell Place, Pell Street.

[nanny jan]

Baptism of Frederick Charles, son of James and Catherine Alice Prayle in 1894 at St. Augustine, Stepney.  James shown as a labourer.

A daughter, Matilda Lilian, baptised in 1889, same church but James shown as a sailor.

A son, Edward James, baptised in 1896, same church;  James shown as a labourer.

Possible death and burial for James in 1939 in Stepney.

[nanny jan]

Possible burial as Alice Catherine Prayle, 19th October 1922, at City of London and Tower Hamlets Cemetery;  address given as St. Andrew's Hospital, E3.  Age shown as 54.

A James Prayle buried in same cemetery in January 1939.



1901 census has a J Prayle (1868), with wife Alice (1868), children Matilda (1890) and Joseph* (1901) living at 49 High Street, Bow.  James shown as a navvy.

*Possible death in 1903.

[RodEast]

Many thanks for that.  Would you have any information on Caspers wife Jane Connor or would I have to start a new topic?
RodEast

[nanny jan]

It is probably best to start a new topic so that you can keep any details separate.

The workhouse records on Ancestry have a few entries for members of the Prayle family and son Edward James could have reversed his names as there is a soldier with that name listed here:

https://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/1549170/prayle,-james-edward/

The sister's married name is slightly wrong though!

[avm228]

Caspar Aleder seems to have had a brother Henry Philip Aleder, a dyer.  He was a 59 yr old widower when he married Martha Ann Turner at St Peter, Hoxton Square on 25 January 1897.  Father: Conrad Aleder (deceased), carpenter.

Henry Philip Aleder died in Holborn in 1916 aged 77.

[avm228]

There’s also Conrad Aleder who in 1871 is in Princes Square, Tower Hamlets (St George in the East)  aged 45 and unmarried*, born Hesse Darmstadt.  Possibly another brother of Caspar and Henry Philip.

*Though there’s a possible marriage in Ashton under Lyne in 1854 - Conrad Aleder, son of Conrad, to Elizabeth Becker daughter of Michael Becker. 

[MaureeninNY]

Sorry if you have already but doesn't this look like C. Alice's birth:
GRO
ELLEDAR, ALICE         mmn CONNOR 
 1868  M Quarter in SAINT GEORGE IN THE EAST  Volume 01C  Page 452 

They're on the 1871 census as ELEDER.

Maureen