Emma Elizabeth Georgina Vare (1846 - 1927) 1851 and 1861 Census

[rutht22000]

I seem to have lost Emma.

Emma is registered as being born in the Bitterne area of Hampshire in 1846.  She seems to be the daughter of William and Sarah Vare and has a brother Thomas Stephen who was born in 1852.

They are christened together on 11 May 1856 at Westend, Hampshire.

Between 1871 and her death in 1927 she is living with in various combinations of her uncle and aunt William and Catherine Wright, her brother Thomas and her nephew (Thomas's son) Fabian.

Ideally I would like to find Emma in 1851 and 1861.  In 1861 she is *not* with the Wrights although Thomas is.

(I don't need to find anything about Thomas Stephen Vare as I have been able to follow him and his somewhat colourful marriage even though he too seemed to live out most of that marriage with Catherine and Emma.... ))

Thank you 

[cath151]

A possible in 1851?
Transcribed as Nore and it could be but have found corresponding births for children Vare/Norris

20 Chichester Terrace, St Marys, Southampton
William Nore  head m 42  Carpenter
Sarah   "        wife  m 42
Edward "        son       9
Emma  "         dau      4
Louisa  "          dau     2
HO107/1669  230/6
All born Southampton

Cathy

[cath151]

Also possible though not sure really
1861 census has a George and Isabella (transcribed Brindy) with a niece Emma E (transcribed Kane but hard to read) aged 14 born Bitterne
Banns 6th May 1838 Northwood
George Bundy
 Isabella Norris

Possible Fawley Baptisms for a Sarah Norris 1810 and Isabella Norris 1814 parents John and Elizabeth.

Cathy

[amondg]

Other children surname VARE with mothers maiden name NORRIS

Edward James registered South Stoneham Union 1841
Caroline Isabella Mary registered 1844 --- death age 3 in 1847
Emma Elizabeth Georgina registered 1846
Louisa registered 1848
Thomas Stephen registered 1852

From new GRO index.

[amondg]

Sarah Vare age 44 death recorded Southampton March quarter 1853

William Vare age 49 death recorded South Stoneham June quarter 1858.

Children taken in by aunts and uncles after the deaths of the parents?

[amondg]

Edward James Vare died 8 October 1883 buried 12th. Publican, "Sportsman's Arms" South Stoneham

His will probated by widow Eliza 5 November 1883

1871 he is St. Mary Newington, London with wife Catherine they married 3 December 1865 St Paul Southwark.
His father William Vare Builder, her father William Carter Illsley, she was Catherine Elson widow.

He marries 2nd Eliza Grant 1880 South Stoneham

[amondg]

Daughter Louisa Vare died 2 January 1853 Westend Hampshire age 4
This is a transcription so it maybe burial date her death recorded 1853 January BMD

[rutht22000]

Thank you both

I did think that perhaps Mum and Dad had died when Thomas and Emma were young and I think that pretty much confirms it - as well as the extra siblings I knew nothing about 

That does look like its Emma on the census as well.

Thank you again