Hello Ciderdrinker again
Yes I was brief on the Thomas and Caroline King as his parents but I was running out of time on the Library computer which shuts off automatically.Not a great day yesterday.
I went back to the GRO index for Portsea c 1858/9 and like the others failed to find your Thomas King only the other one son of Thomas Rueban King.
So I looked up the earlier date of birth from the other census and found a Thomas King s of Thomas and Caroline.
1861 35 Chalton Place Portsea
Thomas King 41 engine driver Portsea
Caroline 35 charwoman
Thomas 14 at home
Maria 12 scholar
Henry 10
Edward 7
Mary Ann 2
His mother Caroline seems to die 2 Oct 1881 in the workhouse and the family split up after the 1861 census when it seems Thomas senior died c 23 July 1870.Both buried at Kingston Cemetery Portsmouth.
Thomas King junior's military record is on FindMyPast .He signed up 12 Oct 1865 to the 14 foot regiment.
Thomas can't have married during his time in the Army because his gives his next of Kin as his sister Mrs Davies/Davis Landport Hants .So he is single when he leaves in 15.2.1887.He gives his occupation as labourer and is 19 when he joins.
He is not on the 1881 census because he is abroad but Elizabeth is at no 13 Providence Place
1881
Elizabeth Newton wife 22 stoker's wife Weymouth
Jane 2 Portsmouth
So for some reason she leaves Providence place for Oxford buildings in 1891 only to return in 1901.
Is she hiding the fact that she is still married? After all ,her address on her marriage was 11 Providence place,father Isaac labourer so why leave her home? Isaac remained there till his death in 1902.
It seems William J Newton died in Portsmouth Mar qtr 1920 age 67 .In 1901 he is in Chance St with new 'wife ' Emma age 48 from London.
So it looks yes that Elizabeth was already married and therefore couldn't marry Thomas King.He must have been around by 1889 to father Florence which would fit with his discharge in 1887.
Ciderdrinker
