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Yet another 3 Jane Keenan’s marriage carlisle
« on: Thursday 14 February 19 18:39 GMT (UK) »
I’m looking for a marriage James Keenan & a Jane.  I believe the marriage to have taken place in about 1852 to 1855 in Carlisle

James parents are James and Jane.

They had 3 children born in carlisle that I’m aware of, Jane in late 1852 another daughter Mary, who was possibly a twin to Jane and lastly James in 1858.  They then moved to haltwhistle.  The odd thing is the only Jane Keenan I can find being born in Carlisle is in 1852,  but the 1861 census states she is 6, as is Mary, who I can’t even find a birth record for. 

I’m unable to find any record of the marriage, I have checked the parish records and can’t see anything.  Nor can I find anything on the marriage register.

I’d appreciate it if someone else could double check

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Re: Yet another 3 Jane Keenan’s marriage carlisle
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 14 February 19 18:45 GMT (UK) »
You mention 3 children, but they have 4 in 1861 (not yet looked later than that).

The youngest is Margaret, 1 b Brampton:

Margaret Keenan, mmn ONEAL, Mar qtr 1860 Brampton.

She died Jun qtr 1861 Haltwhistle, aged 1.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Yet another 3 Jane Keenan’s marriage carlisle
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 14 February 19 18:48 GMT (UK) »
Earlier children:

Jane Keenan, mmn O Neill, Dec qtr 1852 Carlisle
James Keenan, mmn O Neill, Mar qtr 1855 Carlisle
James Keenan, mmn O Neill, Sep qtr 1857 Carlisle
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Yet another 3 Jane Keenan’s marriage carlisle
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 14 February 19 18:50 GMT (UK) »
Later twins:

Margaret Keenan, mmn ONEIL, Mar qtr 1862 Haltwhistle
Mary Ann Keenan, mmn ONEIL, Mar qtr 1862 Haltwhistle
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)


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Re: Yet another 3 Jane Keenan’s marriage carlisle
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 14 February 19 18:54 GMT (UK) »
from GRO
Jane Keenan DQ 1852 Carlisle 10B 341 MMN O'Neill
James Keenan SQ 1857 Carlisle 10B 352 MMN O'Neill
James Keenan DQ 1859 10B 367 MMN O'Neill
John Keenan JQ 1862 Carlisle 10B 437 MMN O'Neill
Looks like there may be more than one Keenan/O'Neill couple
Newson, Steavenson, Walker, Taylor, Dobson, Gardner, Clark, Wilson, Smith, Crossland, Goldfinch, Burnett, Hebdon, Peers, Strother, Askew, Bower, Beckwith, Patton, White, Turner, Nelson, Gilpin, Tomlinson, Thompson, Spedding, Wilkes, Carr, Butterfield, Ormandy, Wilkinson, Cocking, Glover, Pennington, Bowker, Kitching, Langhorn, Haworth, Kirkham.

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Re: Yet another 3 Jane Keenan’s marriage carlisle
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 14 February 19 18:59 GMT (UK) »
James & Jane both born Ireland, per 1861, so may have married there.  They would have been very young when Jane jnr was born (if the 1852 birth reg is hers).

James’s sister may be Mary McCluskey, next door in 1861.  Jane Keenan, mother in law, is in her household.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Yet another 3 Jane Keenan’s marriage carlisle
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 14 February 19 19:19 GMT (UK) »
Gro has deaths  in Haltwhistle for Margaret Keenan age 1 and Mary Keenan age 6 in 1861 ( There is also a possible death for mother Jane in 1865). James seems to have " remarried" by 1871.

Family search has this baptism in1864:

Joannes Keenan baptised 7 Aug 1864 Haltwhistle Parents Jacobii Keenan and Joannae O'Neil Keenan.This suggests they were RC.

William

Dent (Haltwhistle and Sacriston), Bell and Jetson (Haltwhistle), Postle, Ward, Longstaff, Purvis, Manners, Parnaby and Hardy (Co. Durham), Kennedy and McRobert (Banffshire), Reid(Bathgate), Watson (Wemyss), Graham (Libberton), Sandilands (Carmichael), Munro (Dingwall)

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Re: Yet another 3 Jane Keenan’s marriage carlisle
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 14 February 19 19:34 GMT (UK) »
You mention 3 children, but they have 4 in 1861 (not yet looked later than that).

The youngest is Margaret, 1 b Brampton:

Margaret Keenan, mmn ONEAL, Mar qtr 1860 Brampton.

She died Jun qtr 1861 Haltwhistle, aged 1.

Yes that’s right, I’ve ignored Margaret for now, as she wasn’t born in Carlisle.

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Re: Yet another 3 Jane Keenan’s marriage carlisle
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 14 February 19 19:38 GMT (UK) »
from GRO
Jane Keenan DQ 1852 Carlisle 10B 341 MMN O'Neill
James Keenan SQ 1857 Carlisle 10B 352 MMN O'Neill
James Keenan DQ 1859 10B 367 MMN O'Neill
John Keenan JQ 1862 Carlisle 10B 437 MMN O'Neill
Looks like there may be more than one Keenan/O'Neill couple

You have to to be kidding me, I’m sure this section of my tree are almost inbreeds. 

I think the 1852 one looks ok date wise, but the name is the wrong way round unless it’s a typo or Jane kept her name

What does the SQ, DQ & jQ mean?