Gertrude Jones/Hayes.

[lancsann]

but Thomas Gresty & Mary/Gertrude did not marry until 1939 so any children of theirs unlikely to be on the 1939 register

Marriages Jun 1939   (>99%)
Gresty    Thomas J    Hayes    Liverpool N.    8b   1119    
Hayes    Mary    Gresty    Liverpool N.    8b   1119    

I think this is one for a marriage certificate to see who Mary's father was

Another weird coincidence is that the Gertrude Jones in 1939 has exactly the same birth date as the original Gertrude Hayes brother Charles Francis

[heywood]

The children were born before that marriage and have a different surname,
It is difficult because the original post gave details which coukd be living persons.
That is, if they are the right people, of course.

[jonw65]

The surname I get (D.....) for the now removed other names yes, it is neither Jones or Gresty. But if Mr Gresty and Mary Gertrude were together for some years before the marriage - then why that name?

[heywood]

I have no idea 

I will pm.

[cinny22]

Hi my good people,
                               Thank you once again. Now, yesterday i found the marriage for Hayes and Gresty and have ordered it.....it will be at least 3 weeks tho!!! I feel sure it is the right one.

Now the "new" Children. Firstly, is there any way i could send you a copy of the letter i received from child Axx.............i do have a feeling that she has passed, but she did have a son Dxx. It was him that i originally found, via newspaper adverts, and he always referred all questions to his Mom.....but this was at least 8 or so years ago. I have advertised again for D to reconnect, but got no replies.

With in this original letter sent by Axx to half brother??.....(still alive) she states that Collette has just passed away in 2001!!!!She goes onto saying that Gertrude was BOTH their Grandmothers and that SHE had her mother BEFORE, she met and married Bertram Jones!!!!!

I'm beginning to think that possibly Collette and Child "D" were both Axx's children???

As i said also in my original inquiry to you all...........i do have Axx's possible Married name....it' on this letter.

Thank you all so much for your wisdom................Cinny22








 

[heywood]

Hi Cinny,
I messaged Jon with some thoughts re the names but they were based on C and A being sisters so not sure now.
I am sure he will be in touch with you about this and other information.
Personal message isn’t ideal - this should be open but it is important that we don’t mention living people.
I might be off for a few days, not sure, but I hope it can be solved soon.

Heywood

[cinny22]

Thank you for all your help...............like you, i do hope we can get to the bottom of it all.
When the marriage certificate arrives, i may tell you all, all about the contents.
I was also thinking of getting the Death of Mary Gertrude Gresty........this should have the informant.

It's sad that the English certificates aren't like the Australian ones. With our Death Certificates, it informs you of all the children born to the person, ages and how long they have been married and to whom, and how long they have been in Australia......if they had immigrated.
The Scottish Certificate are good too.........

Thank you again and please enjoy your time off.......Cinny22

[jonw65]

deleted, error
PM sent to cinny
John

[cinny22]

Hi jonw65, heywood sent me a message, but not sure if she got it? Are you able to find out?