Weir(d) birth reg problem (boy oh boy do I get 'em!)

[Tickettyboo]

I have a couple, George Woodcock and Isabella Weir,  from Northumberland who married by Licence (I have the records) in Newcastle in 1866.
Their second child,William, is listed in subsequent census returns as being born in Newcastle c 1870 +/- the usual.
The old GRO index showed 3 possibles for his birth reg, 2 in Q4 1869 and 1 in Q3 1870.

Its been a  few years since I looked at him and, revisiting, I looked at the GRO search as now I could find the definitive birth registration by checking for his MMN.

If nothing else, I at least get 'interesting' problems :-)

I can now discount the 1870 registration, the MMN does not match.

The 1869 entries throw up a puzzle. TWO births in Q4 1869, Newcastle for a William Woodcock, MMN Weir.
1 is vol 10b page 94
2 is vol 10b page 98

Free BMD only shows 1 marriage for a Woodock to a Weir prior to 1869
Scotland (though civil registration started later) draws a blank
Ireland   ditto

SO, either its an error in the GRO database, OR it was the longest labour in history and they had twin sons that they gave the same name to and registered at different times.

I have sent in an error report, asking the GRO to check and stating my reasons for thinking its an error.

I am not planning on holding my breath for a resolution :-)

Boo

[jonwarrn]

Hi
There's a Mary Ann Woodcock, mmn Wear, registered Newcastle T. 1872
and an Edith Woodcock, mmn Wear, Newcastle T. June 1877
earlier, Andrew Woodcock, mmn Weir, Alnwick Dec 1866

So the other William Woodcock born 1869 could be in Gateshead in 1881, age 11, born Newcastle, parents George + Isabella
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q271-P444

They should be in Newcastle in 1871?

[jonwarrn]

George Woodcock + Isabella Weir
12 May 1866, Newcastle
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGR1-JSL4

June 1866, Newcastle T. 10b 109

[Tickettyboo]

They should be in Newcastle in 1871?

Thanks
They were :-) At 33 Diana St Piece 5069, Folio 59, page26

1881 they were in Gateshead  at 46 Hewitt St, Piece 5032, Folio 127, page 22
1891 they (apart from Andrew who had married) were still in Gateshead at 27 Askew Road Piece4175, Folio 134 Page 3
1901 back over the other side of the Tyne again in Fenkle St, Newcastle (less Mary Ann who died in 1891)Piece 4783, Folio 91, Page 20

Its just this oddity about William's birth reg that is puzzling me  - though his death threw me slightly till I eventually sussed he and his wife had moved to Liverpool and then to the Wirral and he died there in 1947.

Boo

[Tickettyboo]

George Woodcock + Isabella Weir
12 May 1866, Newcastle
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGR1-JSL4

June 1866, Newcastle T. 10b 109

Thanks I have the licence, the parish register entry  and the marriage cert.

Boo

[hallmark]

 

The 1869 entries throw up a puzzle. TWO births in Q4 1869, Newcastle for a William Woodcock, MMN Weir.
1 is vol 10b page 94
2 is vol 10b page 98

Free BMD only shows 1 marriage for a Woodock to a Weir prior to 1869
Scotland (though civil registration started later) draws a blank
Ireland   ditto

SO, either its an error in the GRO database, OR it was the longest labour in history and they had twin sons that they gave the same name to and registered at different times.

 

Boo

Or he was Registered twice?

[Tickettyboo]

Its possible I suppose, hopefully the GRO will check, otherwise its going to cost me double to find out!

Boo

[jonwarrn]

I have the licence, the parish register entry  and the marriage cert.

Yes, I completely lost the plot there. So sorry.
John

[Tickettyboo]

I have the licence, the parish register entry  and the marriage cert.

Yes, I completely lost the plot there. So sorry.
John

aww don't be sorry, its lots better to know something twice than not at all and your time in looking at them 'is' appreciated, I should have been more clear that I know lots about them and that this birth is the only thing I am (currently) stuck on.
Boo