Thomas Williams Victoria 1844

[Rawlinm]

One of my ancestors was Thomas Pugh Williams born around 1844 in Victoria Monmouth.

If his birth was registered with the GRO would he be listed against Bedwellty, Newport, Monmouth?

Only a few of the GRO indexes have middle names so I'm struggling to find him. I've ordered a few certificates and drawn a blank. None seem to be listed against Victoria.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks
Mark

[CaroleW]

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=329185.0

See reply one  - have included the link in case it helps with other info re area

[Rawlinm]

Thanks.

I'm not able to find any records against Bedwellty. Could it be that births in Victoria weren't registered with the GRO in 1844? What happened to the parish records? Am I missing something?

Or are they registered against Ebbw Vale? Has anyone found any Birth records for Victoria around this time?

[CaroleW]

Failure to register a birth only became a fineable offence in 1874 so many births went unregistered

[osprey]

Bedwelty didn't become a registration district until 1 July 1861. Before that, the area was covered by Abergavenny.

https://www.ukbmd.org.uk/reg/districts/bedwelty.html

[osprey]

birth reg of son Thomas Pugh Williams sept qtr 1868 Bedwellty vol 11a pg 86 gives mother's maiden name of Cooper. Young Thomas is with Cooper grandparents in 1871 RG10/5328 folio 6 pg 5.


Marriage after banns 24 Dec 1866 in the parish church of Bedwellty of
Thomas Williams 23 collier, Rhymney, father Thomas, collier &
Elizabeth Cooper 20, Rhymney, father Robert, stoker
both signed, witnesses John Beechey & Joan Daniel

Thomas Pugh Williams aged 57 of new Tredegar buried 24 May 1900 at Bedwellty parish church

Possible census
1851 151 Augusta St, Victoria, Bedwellty HO107/2448 folio 591 pg 14
Thomas Williams head mar 38 coal miner b. Glam, Merthyr
Margaret wife 39 b. Merioneth, Merionethshire
William son 10
Thomas son 7
Margaret dau 5
David son 1 month
children all born Rhymney


Possible birth registrations for David have mmn of Evans and Williams. Possible registration for Margaret has Evans. Haven't spotted their marriage as yet or an entry in 1841. Will carry on looking.