Francis Trotter Thorne b.1871 Greenwich

[DCS]

Hi all,

Please could somebody do a quick look up for me?  I can see Francis T (Trotter) Thorne b.1871 Greenwich/Deptford and his brother Robert H or K Thorne born 1872? not sure as 5-6 years difference to previous census - they are together living in Surrey but no names of family with them.  As they are 9 and 10 years old I need to know who else is with them at the household.  Or maybe they are at a school?

Also looking for marriages.  I think Francis possibly married someone called Justinia?  Can't find anything.  There were connections with Scotland.  Not sure what happened to Robert.  He might be the same as Robert Kirkwood but not sure.  The boys are in the 1871 census with parents Henry Peniston Thorn (final 3 missing) from Bath  and Janet (Napier) from Scotland.  Any help would be much appreciated.  Thank you.

[rosie99]

The boys are at school in 1881
South Metropolitan Dist School - Epsom

[DCS]

Thank you so much.  Not what I expected - the school was for poor people.  Think their father died so they had to go to this school as mother unable to cope perhaps.  That's helped me a lot.  Thanks.

[rosie99]

The 1871 census should have both Robert Kirkwood Thorne & Francis Trotter Thorne as 5 weeks but Robert has not got weeks against his entry.

THORNE, FRANCIS  TROTTER     mmn NAPIER 
THORNE, ROBERT  KIRKWOOD     mmn NAPIER 
Both registered 1871  June  Quarter in GREENWICH  Volume 01D  Page 712
 

[rosie99]

I suspect that these may be relevant

Marriages Dec qtr 1914 
Thorne    Robert K    (spouse Fanny Coveney)   
Pancras    1b   239
    
Marriages Sep qtr 1936   
Thorne    Robert K    (spouse Mahoney)   
Pancras    1b   247   
This appears to be his son Robert K Thorne

Death  Jun qtr 1949   
Thorne    Robert K    78   
Islington    5c   808
Probate index confirms that is Robert Kirkwood Thorne  https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/#wills

[avm228]

Admitted to the Greenwich workhouse, Woolwich Rd:

28 February 1874

Henry Thorne, clerk, 42 & sons Henry 10, Francis 3, Robert 3.

[avm228]

Admitted to the Greenwich workhouse, Woolwich Rd:

28 February 1874

Henry Thorne, clerk, 42 & sons Henry 10, Francis 3, Robert 3.

Francis, 3 and Robert, 3 were sent "to Sutton" on 17 April 1874.  Sutton was the location of the South Metropolitan District School.

[avm228]

Henry Thorne, 45, was discharged from the Greenwich/Woolwich workhouse infirmary on 7 December 1877.

[avm228]

The twins' older brother Henry Thorne, 10, was admitted to the South Metropolitan District School on 5 March 1874. 

On 25 June 1877 he was sent to a work placement "on trial to Mr W.E. Gipson, 25 Philip Rd, Peckham Rye".