SHOULTS & PHONETIC EQUIVALENTS name in Scotland

[sugarbakers]

There is a Henry in the 1841 census who is a sugar refiner in Greenock, foreign born.

... there was another in Leith at the same time.

Hadn't connected this thread to sugar, but as it is now, perhaps I should mention that there are lots of Schult, Schulte, Schultz, Schulz, Schulze, Shults, Shultz, Shultze on my Sugarbakers database at www.mawer.clara.net/sugarssac.html  and  www.mawer.clara.net/sugarssen.html .
Just a couple of Shoults in London, as well.

[hdw]

This is from Roxburghshire Monumental Inscriptions XXI, Melrose Abbey, published by the Borders Family History Society, inscription no. 361 -

Sacred to the memory of - BROOMFIELD WEIR of Darnlee who died at Rankeillor Street Edinburgh 12.8.1817 aged 61 years also her eldest son WILLIAM WEIR who died in the island of Jamaica 17th November 1811 aged 29 years her husband ROBERT WEIR doctor in Galashiels who died at Port Glasgow 22.11.1859 aged 73 years and their youngest daughter ISABELLA SMAIL WEIR relict of HENRY SHULTZ sugar refiner Greenock and the Rev. S. KERR Minister of Yester who died at Edinburgh 3.7.1882 aged 58 years.

So it seems that Henry Shultz was the first husband of Isabella Smail Weir.

Harry

[hdw]

I know of a sugar-refiner in Greenock called Wrede, and I see you have several entries for that name on your database. Here's an extract from a little document I drew up for my own interest a year or two ago. The Rev. James Stewart was distantly related to my family -

"The Rev. James STEWART died in 1917 at the manse in Peterhead, and his death was registered by his “intimate friend” Frederick Lear WREDE of Bentinck Street, Greenock. In the 1901 Greenock census, Mr. F.L. WREDE is a “Steam-ship owner”. He was born in Greenock in 1850 to Lear WREDE, “Sugar-refiner”, and Janet SERVICE."

Harry

[heywood]

Thank you for searching, Monica which is greatly appreciated. I had already joined Scotland's People a few months ago.  I looked at what was available to view free of charge. That gave a lot of names in the 19th and a few in the 20th century -Shoults, Shults, Schoultz, Schultz. I am not really interested in the Schultz spelling. All my mother's family back to the 18th century are consistently spelt Shoults or phonetic equivalents - no umlaut. Neither am I interested in any Shoult without the s. What I would like to see in Scotland is Shoults spelling (or Schoultz, Scholtz, Sholts) in the 18th century or earlier. Our difficulty is not being able to trace back any that will fit into the tree before marriage of grandparents x 5, in 1772.

Philomel might be aware of the sugar baker Schultz from this post.
I might be mistaken but I think the Scottish connection is from the marriage in 1890 between Feorge Frederick Shoults (England) and Caroline Fearnside in Marnoch.

[Skoosh]

A Glasgow lassie, a spae-wife named Schulz, has won over £2 million on the lottery! Prospective relations are requested form an orderly queue? 

Skoosh.

[sugarbakers]

Thank you for both records, Harry.
Lots of info on the database re: Lear Wrede, including photograph.
If you are interested further, take a look at "Henry Rathjen and his Family" by Ian Rathjen, which I think you'll probably find in the Watt Library in Greenock, as it contains a few chapters on the Wrede family.

[Ruskie]

Thank you for searching, Monica which is greatly appreciated. I had already joined Scotland's People a few months ago.  I looked at what was available to view free of charge. That gave a lot of names in the 19th and a few in the 20th century -Shoults, Shults, Schoultz, Schultz. I am not really interested in the Schultz spelling. All my mother's family back to the 18th century are consistently spelt Shoults or phonetic equivalents - no umlaut. Neither am I interested in any Shoult without the s. What I would like to see in Scotland is Shoults spelling (or Schoultz, Scholtz, Sholts) in the 18th century or earlier. Our difficulty is not being able to trace back any that will fit into the tree before marriage of grandparents x 5, in 1772.

Philomel might be aware of the sugar baker Schultz from this post.
I might be mistaken but I think the Scottish connection is from the marriage in 1890 between Feorge Frederick Shoults (England) and Caroline Fearnside in Marnoch.

You are correct Heywood. George is from London and Caroline is said to be born in Ireland.

There are no known/related Shoults in Scotland prior to their marriage. The Shoults seem to have originated in London but probably Europe (somewhere) prior to that. No one has identified any earlier Shoults in Scotland.

My suggestion of a DNA test which may show matches whose ancestry is from a specific area of Europe was shot down in flames. As it stands the OP has identified several similar surnames from several countries in Europe with no documentation this end to indicate where the family originated.

[hdw]

There was a Finnish theatre and film director called Caspar Wrede, of German stock.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caspar_Wrede

Harry

[Chris shoults]

Hi, my name is chris shoults. My grandfather was william gannon shoults. I traced the family back to 2 brothers, Peter  and Peter christopher shoults. They came over from Holland to London in 1751.