Author Topic: A baptism for 'Henery Webb' Gerrans register for 26 Dec 1773  (Read 3030 times)

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A baptism for 'Henery Webb' Gerrans register for 26 Dec 1773
« on: Tuesday 23 April 19 01:14 BST (UK) »
I've been researching/getting things wrong for the last 10 years, I suppose I must be classed as experienced, but still a beginner as I'm still quite inexperienced in pre-1837 researching techniques.

Once the 1841 census has served its purpose (and luckily in my case, the 1821 census for the village of Veryan in Cornwall) and the need to use parish records starts, thats where things start going wrong for me.

I do realise that with parish records, relationships cannot always be proven as several possibilities for baptisms occur. Take the case of Henry Webb, carpenter of Veryan, Cornwall. He was born in the parish Gerrans according to his marriage. So going through the Gerrans register came up with two possibilities.

A baptism for 'Henery Webb' is to be found in the Gerrans register for 26 Dec 1773, but the burial register his age shows him being born in 1771. There is also another baptism in the register for 'Hennery Webb' for 13 Aug 1769.

This also happens in several other areas of my tree, and find it grossly unfair how other people go back to 1750's and before. its not too much to ask to reach 1750 with a degree of accuracy in at least one of my 16 Great grandparents lines is it? Yet in 12 of these lines, correct lineage cannot be proven.

Im wondering, is there a guide to working with parish records and what are your do's and don'ts of using parish records?

A friend of mine (who is quite knowledgable about the county of Glamorgan) often gets short with me and says things like "Well....have you tried looking in the .....*fill in as appropriate*"?

Often my response is "No! Never heard of it". Is there a pecking order for other sources when parish records arent particularly helpful? And what other sources do you tend to use next?

I know not all parishes have records going back to the 1530's and im not expecting to get back to there. Id rather not be able to find someone than play the multiple choice game. Really does get on my nerves.

Sorry...rant over!

David.
Northants - Stevenson, Smith, Spriggs, Hight, Dodson, Coleman
Swansea - Thomas, Williams, Howell, David, Rees, Griffiths, Jenkins, Bevan
Rutland - Hales
Derbyshire - Harlow, Riley, Pemberton, Aldred
Yorkshire - Stamper, Boyes, Duke
London - Harper, Wallis
Essex - Shelford, Wallis, Read, Stanes
Hertfordshire - Bishop
Cornwall - Johns, Soper, Rowe, Ball, Webb, Dunn, Quintrell, Hain, Oliver
Gloucestershire - Harper, Ash, Gregory, Denman
County Durham - Proud, Duke
Yorkshire - Stamper, Pickering

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« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 23 April 19 06:26 BST (UK) »
You say "He was born in the parish Gerrans according to his marriage."

Wrong! ;D

The marriage entry will say "of this parish" or "of the parish of xxxx".
This refers to the place of residence at the time of marriage and does NOT refer to a place of birth.
Garrad (Suffolk, Essex, Somerset), Crocker (Somerset), Vanstone (Devon, Jersey), Sims (Wiltshire), Bridger (Kent)

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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 23 April 19 09:00 BST (UK) »
Thanks. Very helpful...
Northants - Stevenson, Smith, Spriggs, Hight, Dodson, Coleman
Swansea - Thomas, Williams, Howell, David, Rees, Griffiths, Jenkins, Bevan
Rutland - Hales
Derbyshire - Harlow, Riley, Pemberton, Aldred
Yorkshire - Stamper, Boyes, Duke
London - Harper, Wallis
Essex - Shelford, Wallis, Read, Stanes
Hertfordshire - Bishop
Cornwall - Johns, Soper, Rowe, Ball, Webb, Dunn, Quintrell, Hain, Oliver
Gloucestershire - Harper, Ash, Gregory, Denman
County Durham - Proud, Duke
Yorkshire - Stamper, Pickering

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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 23 April 19 09:01 BST (UK) »
Quick thoughts
Marriage was at St Anthony in Roseland. John Pasco was a witness.
Banns were also called in Veryan
Sojourner in this parish is in it somewhere!

Henry Webb was buried at Veryan, 28 January 1808, age 37
So that perhaps makes 1770 a more likely year of birth than 1771.
There is also an administration for him in 1808.

The baptism of Hennery at Gerrans in 1769 has parents John + Sarah
There is a burial at Veryan in 1790 of a John Webb, age 50
And a marriage at Veryan in 1792 of a Sarah Webb, widow, to Richard Curgenven. Was she buried in Veryan in 1829, age 80?
Husband Richard seems to have died in 1811 and left a will
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6XY9-15R?i=1703&cat=329778

But are they the same John + Sarah?


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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 23 April 19 09:26 BST (UK) »
Was she buried in Veryan in 1829, age 80?

Maybe the Sarah Pasco (Pascoe on Cornwall OPC) bap 17 Dec 1749, Gerrans, father John
Marriage there, 31 July 1768, John Webb + Sarah Pasco
Could the 1792 marriage witness John Pasco have been a relation? :-\

A John Pasco was also a witness to the will of Richard Curgenven...
...which mentions Ann Webb (and her house), Dorothy Webb, Sarah Webb

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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 23 April 19 09:58 BST (UK) »
There is also an administration for him in 1808.

Bond here, see also previous image (ditto the Richard will)
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSNT-79HB-6?i=172&cat=329778

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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 23 April 19 11:21 BST (UK) »
Image of the 1792 marriage of Henry and Ann
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DZZW-FMN?i=24&cc=1769414

and we can compare the signatures of John Pasco!

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« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 24 April 19 09:44 BST (UK) »
Hope you found some of that useful.

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« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 24 April 19 09:52 BST (UK) »
This refers to the place of residence at the time of marriage and does NOT refer to a place of birth.

It doesn't refer to anything. Gerrans was not mentioned on the marriage record.