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Sarah A Sprangle/Sarah A Avrey b.1862 Hampshire the same people?
« on: Wednesday 24 April 19 15:37 BST (UK) »
I cannot find information on the christening/birth of Sarah Avery/Avrey, b. abt 1862 Tichbourne/Alresford Hampshire so would be interested to know whether anyone else can!
 
She is listed with her "parents" George and Hannah Avrey in the 1871 and 1881 censuses but I am wondering whether she is in fact Sarah A Sprangle - who I am unable to find on those dates!

My reasons for this guess is complicated and as follows:

Sarah A Sprangle was born to Harriet Sprangle 20 May 1862 in the Workhouse Union, New Alresford - no father's name given. 

Harriet Sprangle had 2 other children, James Sprangle (1861) and Ellen Sprangle (1864) before she married John Money in 1865.

James and Ellen Sprangle are in the John and Harriet Money household as "stepchildren"  in 1871 but I have been unable to find Sarah A Sprangle in either the 1871 or 1881 censuses. 

Sarah Ann Sprangle married Henry Farmer in 1883 in Micheldever and on her marriage certificate it states her father is George Avery (spelt "Avrey" elsewhere).   

George Avery married Hannah Sprangle - Harriet Sprangle's sister in 1864. 

There is a Sarah Ann Avery (daughter) in George Avery's household aged 8 in 1871 and 18 in 1881 - but I cannot find a birth/christening for her.

I am wondering whether Sarah Ann Sprangle was brought up by her aunt Hannah Sprangle/Avery.

Harriet Sprangle/Money is listed in 1881 as the wife of William Butcher but I cannot find their marriage either.  Her stepson Frederick Money is in the household so that's why I am sure that's her.

Any information or ideas would be gratefully received, as usual!
Woodmancote:  Hobbs; Davison
Bisley:  Fisher
Eastcombe:  Winstone
Chalford:  Lambert
Newent:  Bowkett
Llangurig: Owen; Jones
Llangurig & Bedlinog: Rees
Llanonn: Williams
Charfield:  Fowler; Selman
Olveston:  Fisher
Batheaston: Fisher
Andover, Hurstbourne, Woodcutt, Shinfield: Farmer & Tanner
Alresford: Sprangle; Hack
Martletwy & Llangwig:  Davies

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Re: Sarah A Sprangle/Sarah A Avrey b.1862 Hampshire the same people?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 24 April 19 15:44 BST (UK) »
That sounds well worked out to me. 

Are there baptisms for the other 2 children Harriet had? 
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Sarah A Sprangle/Sarah A Avrey b.1862 Hampshire the same people?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 24 April 19 15:50 BST (UK) »
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Harriet Sprangle/Money is listed in 1881 as the wife of William Butcher but I cannot find their marriage either. 

This one?

Mar 1878 Alresford

Harriett Money
Tom Brown
William Butcher
Mary Cooper
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Sarah A Sprangle/Sarah A Avrey b.1862 Hampshire the same people?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 24 April 19 15:53 BST (UK) »
The youngest Butcher child in 1881 Arthur has mother Hariette. 
As does Albert born later in 1881.

The next oldest Rosa has mother Sarah, presumably William's previous wife.
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos


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Re: Sarah A Sprangle/Sarah A Avrey b.1862 Hampshire the same people?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 24 April 19 15:57 BST (UK) »
Harriet's children (before marriage):

Ellen Sprangle bapt 4 Feb 1866 but according to the census was born abt. 1864.

James Sprangle - I cannot find a bapt for him but according to the census was born abt 1861.

Thanks for your speedy reply!
Woodmancote:  Hobbs; Davison
Bisley:  Fisher
Eastcombe:  Winstone
Chalford:  Lambert
Newent:  Bowkett
Llangurig: Owen; Jones
Llangurig & Bedlinog: Rees
Llanonn: Williams
Charfield:  Fowler; Selman
Olveston:  Fisher
Batheaston: Fisher
Andover, Hurstbourne, Woodcutt, Shinfield: Farmer & Tanner
Alresford: Sprangle; Hack
Martletwy & Llangwig:  Davies

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Re: Sarah A Sprangle/Sarah A Avrey b.1862 Hampshire the same people?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 24 April 19 15:59 BST (UK) »
Milliepede - I spent ages looking for the Money/Butcher marriage and failed - and you found it so quickly!  Many thanks.

Curious spelling of Hariette, isn't it?  No wonder these families can be difficult to look up on line.
Woodmancote:  Hobbs; Davison
Bisley:  Fisher
Eastcombe:  Winstone
Chalford:  Lambert
Newent:  Bowkett
Llangurig: Owen; Jones
Llangurig & Bedlinog: Rees
Llanonn: Williams
Charfield:  Fowler; Selman
Olveston:  Fisher
Batheaston: Fisher
Andover, Hurstbourne, Woodcutt, Shinfield: Farmer & Tanner
Alresford: Sprangle; Hack
Martletwy & Llangwig:  Davies

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Re: Sarah A Sprangle/Sarah A Avrey b.1862 Hampshire the same people?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 24 April 19 16:01 BST (UK) »
Birth registration for Ellen is Jun 1863.  Not found one for James yet. 

Found it now even earlier Sep 1859. 

Sarah Ann is Jun 1862.
Hinchliffe - Huddersfield Wiltshire
Burroughs - Arlingham Glos
Pick - Frocester Glos

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Re: Sarah A Sprangle/Sarah A Avrey b.1862 Hampshire the same people?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 24 April 19 16:27 BST (UK) »
Thanks again Millepede.

One thing I forgot to mention in my long saga was that Harriet Sprangle/Money and John Money had a daughter they called Sarah Ann Money in 1868.....

that is, although Harriet already had a daughter Sarah Ann (Sprangle) who would have been 6 yrs old at that time.   

I am not sure what that means!  Perhaps she felt she had "lost" her to her sister (if my supposition about the family is correct).  But how weird for Sarah Ann Sprangle (brought up as Avery though knowing she was really Sprangle - as per her marriage certificate) to have had a younger half sister with the same first names, same mother.  All living in Alresford which I guess was not a massive place to live.
Woodmancote:  Hobbs; Davison
Bisley:  Fisher
Eastcombe:  Winstone
Chalford:  Lambert
Newent:  Bowkett
Llangurig: Owen; Jones
Llangurig & Bedlinog: Rees
Llanonn: Williams
Charfield:  Fowler; Selman
Olveston:  Fisher
Batheaston: Fisher
Andover, Hurstbourne, Woodcutt, Shinfield: Farmer & Tanner
Alresford: Sprangle; Hack
Martletwy & Llangwig:  Davies