Glasgow. Barnhill Poorhouse records

[MonicaL]

That is great news. Good luck with the searches 

Monica

[Skoosh]

Riddrie Cemetery is another possibility, it would just depend on the Poor Inspector at the time, there is a long section of graves with no markers just north of the Molendinar Burn which would fit the bill. Good luck!

Skoosh.

[merryhow]

Hi, I was in the Mitchell today,had seen your post so thought I'd have a quick look.

Inspectors visit  10am 19th Nov 1880

Agnes Sideaway -- Born Thistle St, s side

Father-- William Hardie, Mother--Amelia Walker both dead
Religion-- Prodestant

Married -- 1 Sept 1867 Monteith Row, proclaimed Tobago St.

Husband Charles Sideaway sailor from Plymouth Father --George Sideaway , labourer. Mother-- Sarah Clement. Address 2 Low St Plymouth.

Says Charles left her 10th Sept 1878

Occupation. Cleaner

Has a brother David living at 4 Hozier St Bridgeton

Has been twice in Barnhill 1st about 6yrs ago, 2nd about Halloween 2yrs ago,from Charles St Bridgeton.

In Ward 16 poorhouse 8/11/1880
Removed by Barony 18/12/1880  ( unclear where Inspector visited her on the 19/11/1880 )

List of previous addresses  18William St Bridgeton living with Findlay family 2mths
                                       25 Newhall St 1yr 6mths living with Irene ,Gallacher 1yr 6mths
                                       23 Charles St 12yrs
Was in England with husband cannot tell time ( how Long )
Tried other variations of her name but could find no other entries for her.

Added  the other 2 admissions to Barnhill tie in with the birth of her son and Charles leaving.

Hope this of some help.    Val

[Skoosh]

The marriage at Monteith Row would be at their ministers house a terrace of town-houses, marriages  usually took place at the manse or the brides house etc'  The Free Church of Scotland had a mission in Young Street/Tobago Street.

 Info' here on The Calton,

https://www.glasgow.gov.uk/CHttpHandler.ashx?id=6656

Skoosh.

[vapcq45]

Wow!  Thank you so much Merryhow!  I really appreciate you taking the time to look. That certainly confirms her husband left her and given us some great detail. Did you get a sense if she was in because she was destitute ir because she was ill? 

Also interesting to learn where they were married. Thank you Skoosh!

[sancti]

Marriage available to view on Scotlandspeople

HARDIE
AGNES
&
SIDAWAY
CHARLES
1867
644/4 283
Calton (Glasgow)

[vapcq45]

Thank you Sancti.  I see it, great, thanks.

[Lodger]

I was at the Mitchell today and, as promised, had a look at this claim.
Here is my transcription.

City Parish, Glasgow. Poor Relief Claim number 41690. (Archive Ref: D/Hew 10/3/62 - 41690).
Claim made at 11.15 am, 8th November 1880.

AGNES HARDIE SIDEAWAY.

Address - Night Asylum, (Glasgow).
Born - Thistle Street, S. Side. (i.e. South Side of the river Clyde).

Inspector's visit - 10.00 a.m. 19th November 1880. (While she was in the Poorhouse hospital).

Condition - Deserted.
Age - 39 years.
Occupation - Cleaner.
Religion - Protestant.
Disability - Bronchitis. (In 16 ward).

Husband - Charles Sideaway aged 39 years, from Plymouth, a sailor, left her on 10th September 1878. Son of George Sideaway a labourer and Sarah Clement, at 2 Low St, Plymouth.
Applicants parents - William Hardie a weaver and Amelia Walker, both dead.
Married 1st September 1867 in Monteith Row, proclaimed in Tobago Street.

1st application.
Brother David at 4 Hozier St, Bridgeton.
Applicant has been twice in Barnhill (poorhouse), 1st time about 6 years ago, last time about Halloween 2 years ago, from Charles St Bridgeton. Was in England with husband 2 years but cannot tell the time. (sic).

Residences -
Night Asylum - 2 days. Glasgow (City Parish).
Prior - 18 William St, Bridgeton. Findlay. Barony (Parish) 2 months.
Prior - Silver Fir Street, Rutherglen (Parish). 4 months.
Prior - 25 Newhall St. Jane Gallocher. Barony (Parish). 1 year & 6 months.
Prior - 23 Charles St. Barony (Parish). 12 years.

Poorhouse, in 8th November 1880, in 16 ward.
(Liability) Admitted by Barony L29/699 "send her here" in red ink. 30th November 1880.
18th December 1880 - Removed by Barony.

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All the italics are mine. There were 3 civil parishes in Glasgow at this time. City Parish, Barony Parish and Govan Combination Parish, each with their own poorhouse.
So, although this is Agnes' 1st application with City Parish, she had already made 2 previous applications with Barony Parish (not found today, so the claims have been lost).
She would have been in the Night Asylum because she was homeless and would have been taken directly to the City poorhouse hospital because she was ill.

There is also a claim for Neil Sidaway in Govan Combination Parish. (Ref: d/Hew 17/889 - 218716)
He is at 21 Marlow St, Kinning Park, (South Side) aged 31 years, married.
Born Plantation district of Glasgow (South Side).
Parents - Ryland Sidway, chainmaker, deceased and Marion McDonald aged 57 years, at 44 Sussex St, South Side.
wife is Jeanie McInnes.
Date of claim was 14th September 1921.

[vapcq45]

Dear Lodger.  My goodness, thank you very much.  This information is so detailed and tells a very sad story.  One that we suspected, but the details really bring her story to life.  Deserted by her husband (who met his next wife in Liverpool and they moved to London - marrying in the July of 1885 BIGAMOUSLY before Agnes died in November of the same year.

It looks as though, having lost both of her children, we was working as a Cleaner but was plagued by Bronchitis, probably not helped by her living conditions and of course, being ill, was unable to work and pay rent.  I didn't know her parents were dead so that's additional useful information and makes you wonder why the brother wasn't more help.

You've also confirmed that Charles Sidaway, being from Plymouth is the correct man from our point of view.  Having been born in Plymouth, he was in the Royal Navy and then became a Merchant Seaman and marries in Glasgow - so we were wondering if we were right or not, and we were.  Thank you.

Thank you for explaining the Night Asylum and the three parishes.

I can now move on to researching more about her living conditions as you've included the useful addresses and investigate her brother, who we didn't know about.

Whatever Agnes may have been, or done, she certainly did not deserve the hardships she faced - and I suspect hers may have been a common story.

I am sharing the information you have round with a contact in New Zealand who has been working on the Sidaways with me and also I have a facebook Group on our family history for my immediate relatives and they will certainly be hearing the story of Agnes and Charles.

I can't thank you enough for the time and trouble you have taken in noting all of this so thoroughly for us.  Thank you so much!

Val