Adoption Certificate DoB

[Rosinish]

2nd story I've read today with a good positive outcome, well done all!

Sadly it looks as though the twin didn't survive as there's no corresponding ref. no. either side.

Annie

[MonicaL]

Which twin, Annie?

Monica 

[Rosinish]

Which twin, Annie?

Monica 

Monica, my apologies, I misread Reply #16 in excitement...I thought this was the actual death of Winifred's mother who had died in childbirth (Twin Pregnancy)...Sorry 

Annie

[Chef_Hendrix]

Hi,

so unfortunately I had a reply today from the Sheriff Clerk and they are not prepared to grant my application. Here is a small excerpt from their reply.

Whilst I have every sympathy with this request I am not persuaded that it is appropriate to grant it – at least not at this stage without a hearing.  If there is to be a hearing then I would deem it necessary to intimate the application to the Lord Advocate as representing the public interest.

To be honest, although disappointed, before contacting them I had considered this a forlorn hope. But the whole process has been quick from start to finish and I did get the answer that I originally sought in regards to my Grans date of birth so have to be happy for that.

It's now back to reviewing the possible Winifreds who I identified earlier in the thread, hopefully that can lead somewhere.

Thanks to everyones positive comments and interest and I shall keep you updated as I pursue my elusive ancestors!

Gaz

[dowdstree]

That is really disappointing for you but as you say not entirely a total surprise.

Good luck with your quest and hopefully you may get the result you want through your own research.

Dorrie

[MonicaL]

Hi Gaz

You have all the determination to get there...will just take a little longer for sure. Plan an extra day when you go the Borders to visit family to sit at the Hawick Hub and go through every possible birth entry you can on the SP terminal.

Let us know how you get on please!

Monica

PS: Annie, no need to apologise  The other day, I spent half a thread referring to someone by the wrong name  Happens!

[Rosinish]

"Whilst I have every sympathy with this request I am not persuaded that it is appropriate to grant it – at least not at this stage without a hearing.  If there is to be a hearing then I would deem it necessary to intimate the application to the Lord Advocate as representing the public interest."

Sad news for you & your father indeed but...

Would it not be worth enquiring what a 'hearing' would entail as a different person may have a different point of view especially if (s)he has an interest in their own genealogy?

Annie

[Forfarian]

I know that you are not allowed to change the given name of an older child when you adopt, but I believe that you are still free to rename a baby on adoption (i.e. before (s)he is old enough to recognise his/her name - there is probably some legal number of months after which the original name must be kept) so there is absolutely nothing to say that Winifred was her birth name.

[Chef_Hendrix]

I know that you are not allowed to change the given name of an older child when you adopt, but I believe that you are still free to rename a baby on adoption (i.e. before (s)he is old enough to recognise his/her name - there is probably some legal number of months after which the original name must be kept) so there is absolutely nothing to say that Winifred was her birth name.

Yes, you're right, but as there is only a few Winifreds it should be pretty easy to discount them from my research.