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Outram family of St Margaret, Leicester
« on: Thursday 09 May 19 05:48 BST (UK) »
Hello,

Needing help to look for death and burial of John Outram born 1783 St Mary, Leicester.
married Susannah Jemima Rider in 1800, born c 1785 st Mary, died 1814 St Margaret.

children   John Outram 1806 St  Mary.

Susannah and John could have been married before this marriage.  Susannah is down as  widow . on the burial form for her in 1814.

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Re: Outram family of St Margaret, Leicester
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 09 May 19 07:14 BST (UK) »
The only John Outram showing up in Leicestershire burials is at St Mary, Leicester and is clearly not the one you are searching for:

4 February 1816 - aged 70 or Horsepool Street.

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Re: Outram family of St Margaret, Leicester
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 09 May 19 07:18 BST (UK) »
Errrrm!!!

Marriage entry for John Outram 11 November 1800 is to Jemima Rider, by Licence.

The Bond and Allegation state that John OUtram is a Framework Knitter, a widower, aged 50, and Jemima is a widow, aged 40 of the parish of All Saints.
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Re: Outram family of St Margaret, Leicester
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 09 May 19 07:32 BST (UK) »
Baptisms - St Mary, Leicester:

John Outram - son of John and Susan - 28 February 1806

John Outram - son of John and Ann - 12 August 1783
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Re: Outram family of St Margaret, Leicester
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 09 May 19 08:22 BST (UK) »
Is this John Outram's first marriage - St Mary, Leicester

22 July 1770 - Ann Lacy

Two signatures for comparison  :)
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Re: Outram family of St Margaret, Leicester
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 09 May 19 09:58 BST (UK) »
The will of John in 1817 mentions his daughter, Ann Jelley, and sons, Soloman and Thomas. All children of John and Ann, so presumably John's siblings.

He doesn't mention a son named John or a wife.

Soloman was baptised as Attram, so John may have died under a variation, but I can't find one.

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Re: Outram family of St Margaret, Leicester
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 09 May 19 10:53 BST (UK) »
So, Jemima and Susannah are 2 different people, and the 2 John's appear to be father and son.

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Re: Outram family of St Margaret, Leicester
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 09 May 19 11:57 BST (UK) »
So the will is related to the John Outram who was buried on 4 February 1816 - preface to the will states that John died 31 January 1816.

Father of Ann, Solomon and Thomas.



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Re: Outram family of St Margaret, Leicester
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 09 May 19 12:35 BST (UK) »
St Mary, Leicester - by Banns - 30 November 1801

Richard Jelley (x) and Ann Outram (x) - botp

Robert Jelley is a witness
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