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Offline kiwianna

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Mystery Cranes - Kent? London?
« on: Wednesday 15 May 19 08:41 BST (UK) »
I am doing some research to try and discover the  DNA link between two people and run into brick walls in trying to trace one persons line. Maybe someone would like a challenge?
My known facts
John Charles Crane born 11 May 1912 Hammersmith - Mothers maiden name Schmid on births registration

Father known to be Arthur Crane and mother Annie Maria Schmid (b 1873). Married 2 July 1893 Hammersmith

Arthur's father listed on marriage Banns as Alfred - deceased.

I have Arthur and Annie on census 1901 and 1911 (he born approx 1870) listing birthplace as Canterbury on one and Whitstable Kent on the other.

I cannot find him on any other census. I cannot find a birth in Kent between 1868 and 1873.
Total mystery man
Any ideas?

Many thanks
Anna
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Re: Mystery Cranes - Kent? London?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 15 May 19 08:51 BST (UK) »
Possibility in Hammersmith 1891 ?
Arthur Crane, 20, born Kent Canterbury
Mother Sarah
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QQ6B-QMM

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Re: Mystery Cranes - Kent? London?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 15 May 19 08:59 BST (UK) »
Arthur and Sarah in Hammersmith in 81? In index as Crand
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q273-Q3PS

Also Alfred, 22, Walter, 12
Piece 56 folio 128 page 12

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Re: Mystery Cranes - Kent? London?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 15 May 19 09:05 BST (UK) »
School admissions, Saunders Road School, 16 January 1877
Arthur Crane, born 10 May 1869
Walter Crane, born 16 Jan 1867 (edit!)
Parent Sarah

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Re: Mystery Cranes - Kent? London?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 15 May 19 09:40 BST (UK) »
May or may not be relevant :-\ 
Marriage in Gillingham, 3 July 1854
Alfred Crane + Sarah Ann Peatfield
Both of New Brompton
Alfred a Clerk, father Robert Crane, Clerk
Sarah's father was William Peatfield, Mariner.


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Re: Mystery Cranes - Kent? London?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 15 May 19 09:47 BST (UK) »
Walter.Crane marries in 1896 Hammersmith, naming his father as William Crane, soldier, decd.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Mystery Cranes - Kent? London?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 15 May 19 09:56 BST (UK) »
Arthur’s birthplace per 1881 “Wisterbul” looks like an attempt at Whitstable, so promising in light of the tie-in to later census.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Mystery Cranes - Kent? London?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 15 May 19 09:58 BST (UK) »
1871 - in Canterbury under the name Williams, apart from Alfred Crawford Crane: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VF8G-W96
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Re: Mystery Cranes - Kent? London?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 15 May 19 10:02 BST (UK) »
Alfred Crawford Crane was baptised at Kurrachee on 3 June 1859, born 23 September 1858. Father Alfred Crawford Crane, overseer sergeant in the Public Works Department, mother Sarah Anne.
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