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James William Hart 1870 (approx)
« on: Wednesday 05 June 19 13:10 BST (UK) »
I'm looking for information about James William Hart (B.1870 approx) who was married to Ethel May Churcher (B. 1885).

They had a daughter named Beatrice Alice in 1909.

I can't seem to find much about his father whose name was also James Hart.

Apparently James was born in Hertfordshire.
Any help would be great. Thanks.

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Re: James William Hart 1870 (approx)
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 05 June 19 13:21 BST (UK) »
Welcome to rootschat

Just to give us some idea of the location of those events

HART, BEATRICE  ALICE     MMN CHURCHER 
1909  Dec Quarter in DARTFORD  Volume 02A  Page 613

Marriage Dec qtr 1908 
CHURCHER    Ethel May       
HART    James William       
Lambeth    1d   545

Where do you have James William in 1911 and where in Hertfordshire was he born.  I see that Ethel & Beatrice are with Ethels parents
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Re: James William Hart 1870 (approx)
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 05 June 19 15:47 BST (UK) »
I was trying to work put occp's on Marriage Cert, Game Dealer?

If so possible?

1901 Census
Camberwell, London
James Hart, 64, Head, Mar, Poulterer, born Walworth
Alice Hart, 66, Wife, Mar, born Scotland   
James W Hart, 32, Son, Unm, born Walworth

1891 Census
James Hart 53
Alice Hart   51
John S Hart 30
James W Hart 23

1881 Census
James Hart 44
Alice Hart   45
John S. Hart 21
Susannah A. Hart 16
James W. Hart   14

1871 Census
James Hart 34 Occp Hawker
Alice Hart   36 born Glasgow
John S Hart 11
Susanah Hart 6
James Hart 4
Samuel Campbell 20, Brother in Law

For some reason James and Alice Campbell didnt marry until 1885 in London (image on Anc.)

Trish :)


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Re: James William Hart 1870 (approx)
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 05 June 19 15:53 BST (UK) »
The Campbells in Summerstown, Surrey in 1851;

Name   Age
Samuel Campell   39
Mary Ann Campell 38
ALICE Campell   16 born
John Campell   14
Henry Campell   12
Susan Campell   10
Mary Ann Campell   7
Elizabeth Campell   3
Samuel Campell   3 Mo

James Father James is deceased on the 1908 M/C.

Deaths Dec 1901
Hart  James  Camberwell 1d 545 age 60***
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Re: James William Hart 1870 (approx)
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 09 June 19 09:13 BST (UK) »
Thanks all. Awesome. I'll see where this info takes me.

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Re: James William Hart 1870 (approx)
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 09 June 19 09:50 BST (UK) »
Hi   
WELCOME to Rootschat!     

For the notes pile?     



Hertforshire link?
This James eligible for father of a James in 1870-ish?     

Birth Dec 1839 Ware 6 567  James HART ( mmn Bradley )
 
1841 Ware HO107 444 9 21 p35 ( Hoddesdon )
 
All BiC
 
William Hart 40 AgLab
Sarah 40
Martha 10
Mary 10
Frederick 9
Hannah 5
Jane 5
James 1
AND
Mary Bradley 75


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Re: James William Hart 1870 (approx)
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 09 June 19 10:23 BST (UK) »
Hi Ray, can you check the M/C on Anc which I think says occp Game Dealer?

That is why I picked the James W, Father James occp Poulterer.

I may be way off though.

Trish :)

Here are the Birth Reg's for the Family I found

HART, SUSANNAH  ALICE, Mothers mn   CAMPBELL** 
GRO Reference: 1864  D Quarter in NEWINGTON  Volume 01D  Page 224


HART, JOHN  SAMUEL     CAMPBELL** 
GRO Reference: 1860  M Quarter in NEWINGTON  Volume 01D  Page 225

HART, JAMES  WILLIAM     CAMPBELL** 
GRO Reference: 1867  J Quarter in NEWINGTON  Volume 01D  Page 204
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Re: James William Hart 1870 (approx)
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 09 June 19 10:42 BST (UK) »
Hi

The banns only give their names#262 14th 21st 28th June 1885
Continuing . . . . . :)
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Re: James William Hart 1870 (approx)
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 09 June 19 10:46 BST (UK) »
Beatrice Alice Harts Birth Cert has her Father as a Poulterer and Game Dealer.
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