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Irish Census Records
« on: Friday 28 June 19 12:28 BST (UK) »
Hi All,

I have a questionabout the irish Census recs and where these might be accessed.

I have a relative   born C1844 in Ireland. Now I am wondering at what age would he have been required to be on the Census on his own and up to when he immigrated  in 1872.   So looking at the recs for 1851,1861 and 1871.  This would have been Co. Tipperary and or Co. Cork

any ideas please. 

Thanks Essnell.

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Re: Irish Census Records
« Reply #1 on: Friday 28 June 19 12:32 BST (UK) »
only the 1901 and 1911 census returns survive in full, available on the NAI website. Only fragments of the some of the earlier census survive (1821 to 1851) and are included on the same system.

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« Reply #2 on: Friday 28 June 19 14:04 BST (UK) »
I have a relative   born C1844 in Ireland. Now I am wondering at what age would he have been required to be on the Census on his own and up to when he immigrated  in 1872.
Not sure I understand what you mean but in any case...
Everyone alive on the day of a census and in the country is required to be on a census, there is no age limit or living arrangement requirement.

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Re: Irish Census Records
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 29 June 19 11:36 BST (UK) »
Hi,
Names would really help.
Their fathers name and any siblings names would help too.
The country of where they went.
So many places to look.
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Re: Irish Census Records
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 29 June 19 11:49 BST (UK) »
Yes it is true alot of the Irish census are missing due to the Uprising in Dublin in 1922 The Four Courts when  the building was burned etc. this makes Irish research more difficult but not impossible!

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« Reply #5 on: Saturday 29 June 19 12:15 BST (UK) »
Yes it is true alot of the Irish census are missing due to the Uprising in Dublin in 1922 The Four Courts when  the building was burned etc. this makes Irish research more difficult but not impossible!

Civil War, the Rising was 1916.
What was lost in the fire, https://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/irish-records-burned.html

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Re: Irish Census Records
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 August 19 00:40 BST (UK) »
Hi All,

Thank you for the replies.  I have checked out the links from Sinann. 

I looked in the 1841 for the parents and they are not there and the child is not on the 1851 or the parents. 

birth searching is totally useless. due to the facts stated above but I thought that the census ought to have something.     Are there any records for population after 1851. to 1861 1871.

What if the family were attached to or working on an Estate how would they have been recorded and did it matter if they were RC or C of I ?

thanks for any further ideas.
Essnell

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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 10 August 19 07:29 BST (UK) »
Give a man a record and you feed him for a day.
Teach a man to research, and you feed him for a lifetime.

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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 10 August 19 08:20 BST (UK) »
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Are there any records for population after 1851. to 1861 1871.
The main purpose of the census was to gather statistics (population, occupations, etc.) so once figures were extracted (number of people in a townland, number of children under 10 or whatever) the actual returns were no longer needed which is why many of the early ones were deliberately destroyed.
However, many of the records were completely destroyed prior to 1922, by order of the British government, on grounds of confidentiality.
The original census returns for 1861 and 1871 were destroyed shortly after they were taken.
Documents from the 1881 and 1891 censuses were pulped during the First World War.
The majority of the returns for the four censuses carried out between 1821 and 1851 were destroyed by a major fire at the Public Record Office of Ireland.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-27205043
My (very. very small) local library has the population figures for the area from each census and I think PRONI in Belfast also has such material for the North of Ireland. Perhaps National Archives in Dublin will have similar for Tipperary and Cork as well as the local archives.

Have you searched to see if 1841 or 1851 were used for Old Age Pension application? Sometimes a sibling of the person you are searching for can be found there.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/2346275

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What if the family were attached to or working on an Estate how would they have been recorded and did it matter if they were RC or C of I ?
As already stated, everyone would have been included in the original census returns.

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I looked in the 1841 for the parents and they are not there and the child is not on the 1851 or the parents.
For Tipperary only fragments of 1821 survive-
http://www.irelandgenweb.com/irltip/records.htm
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