John McQuillan Robertson

[Rosinish]

The death of John Robertson aged 48 in 1956 at Stirling ?  There is also a hit on Scotland's People for a John McQuillan aged 48 in 1956 in Stirling. Both have the ref 490/56.
 Would this not indicate the deceased was registered with both surnames and that he probably had been born as John McQuillan?

Looby

Looby, yes that's correct 


Annie

[SJamieson]

Having gotten the records now, it's nice to see that his death registers his mother as Helen unlike his marriage registration which listed his adoptive parents.

At the moment however Helen appears to be a dead end as there's so little information to go on. She's not  in Avondale in the 1901 or 1911 census, and there's few Helen McQuillan's in the 1911 census at all. Cross referencing all the Helen/Hellen/Ellen/etc McQuillan/McQuillian/Quillian/etc birth, deaths and marriages doesn't show up any clear candidates - though presuming she was younger the "Ellen" born in Greenock West that subsequently moves to Govan for the two censuses (named as Hellen in 1911 one) is the closest candidate.

Likewise the 1905 property roll gives no obvious information on 25 Green Street, but many of the houses aren't numbered.

Thanks again to all for the help in solving this one.

[Rosinish]

Having gotten the records now, it's nice to see that his death registers his mother as Helen unlike his marriage registration

What info. is given on the DC for Helen, was she deceased &/or occupation?

Annie

[Rosinish]

          John McQuillan, Illegitimate, born 3 Oct 1907 at Green Street, Strathaven.     Mother: Helen McQuillan, Domestic Servant. 

Is there a No. for Green Street & is there mention of 'Domicile' with a different address?

Annie

[Rosinish]

This may just be a coincidence but worth considering I think...

1901 has a Maggie McQuillan 19 Servant born Denny, Stirling
Living at 15 Barn Street, Strathaven, Avondale, Lanark

I couldn't locate Helen in 1901 or 1911 anywhere.

Then checking Denny births...

MCQUILLAN HELEN 1880
476/1 111 Denny

MCQUILLAN MARY 1868
476/ 190 Denny

MCQUILLAN CAROLINE 1873
476/ 1 Denny

MCQUILLAN MARGARET 1878
476/1 21 Denny

There are lots more siblings for the above

Then a death...

MCQUILLAN HELEN 33
1915
490/ 223 Stirling


Annie

[SJamieson]

Having gotten the records now, it's nice to see that his death registers his mother as Helen unlike his marriage registration

What info. is given on the DC for Helen, was she deceased &/or occupation?

Annie

Deceased  Domestic Servant - not much to go on and possibly a likelihood combined with his birth certificate details.

[SJamieson]

          John McQuillan, Illegitimate, born 3 Oct 1907 at Green Street, Strathaven.     Mother: Helen McQuillan, Domestic Servant. 

Is there a No. for Green Street & is there mention of 'Domicile' with a different address?

Annie

 
No mention of a domicile. It appears to give a house number of 25, but it's unusual as it's the only registered birth on that page that identifies a specific house number (all same Registrar) Property rolls are mostly numbered but have about a dozen people in 21 then jumps to a few in 35.

In 1901 Maggie is in 15 Barn Street which if the numbering's today are still consistent is just around the corner.

[Rosinish]

My attention was drawn to the coincidences.

Maggie with same unusual surname in Strathaven, born Stirling where John ended up then Maggie having a sis Helen.

Annie

[SJamieson]

Off to work just now so don't have much time to dig today, but that 1915 death matches a 1912 marriage.
"Ellan" McQuillan married James Wylie in Stirling. Both surnames are given in the death registration.

It's definitely worth exploring (particularly since there are so few Helen Mcquillan's

Here's a kicker in 1891 the family appear to move from Denny to Bannockburn but in 1901 Maggie's Still in Bannockburn but Helen is missing.
So is Helen in Strathaven mistakenly called Maggie by the householder (a Maggie Wiseman) or the census taker?