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Re: Kathleen O'Connell (murdered young?) M: Alice Kennedy; F:Patrick O'Connell
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 25 July 19 15:02 BST (UK) »
There was a inquest into the train accident death which appeared in thr Limerick Chronicle. Unfortunately the coverage of that paper starts too late on Irish Newspaper Archives.
Perhaps the paper would be willing to help.

Kate appears on page 84
http://www.limerickcity.ie/Library/LocalStudies/ObituariesdeathnoticesetcfromtheLimerickChronicle/Alphabeticallistingsofobituariesdeathnoticesetc/alphabetical1%20C.pdf
They are also going to order that death certificate for the 15 year old.  Will keep you posted.

Why would you pay for a copy when it is free online?

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1911/05392/4505440.pdf

Name   KATHLEEN OCONNELL
Date of Death   1911
Group Registration ID   5180872
SR District/Reg Area   Limerick
Deceased Age at Death   15

Debra  :)
There was a inquest into the train accident death which appeared in thr Limerick Chronicle. Unfortunately the coverage of that paper starts too late on Irish Newspaper Archives.
Perhaps the paper would be willing to help.

Kate appears on page 84
http://www.limerickcity.ie/Library/LocalStudies/ObituariesdeathnoticesetcfromtheLimerickChronicle/Alphabeticallistingsofobituariesdeathnoticesetc/alphabetical1%20C.pdf

I found this from your post... thanks

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Re: Kathleen O'Connell (murdered young?) M: Alice Kennedy; F:Patrick O'Connell
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 25 July 19 15:03 BST (UK) »
I was thinking the same Debra.

There is a Katie here - parents Patrick and Mary but more siblings than described.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Charleville/Rathgroggan_South/421547/
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Re: Kathleen O'Connell (murdered young?) M: Alice Kennedy; F:Patrick O'Connell
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 25 July 19 15:03 BST (UK) »
Thanks Dundee - that's great!  Will order.... Whoop

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Re: Kathleen O'Connell (murdered young?) M: Alice Kennedy; F:Patrick O'Connell
« Reply #21 on: Thursday 25 July 19 15:07 BST (UK) »
There was a inquest into the train accident death which appeared in thr Limerick Chronicle. Unfortunately the coverage of that paper starts too late on Irish Newspaper Archives.
Perhaps the paper would be willing to help.

Kate appears on page 84
http://www.limerickcity.ie/Library/LocalStudies/ObituariesdeathnoticesetcfromtheLimerickChronicle/Alphabeticallistingsofobituariesdeathnoticesetc/alphabetical1%20C.pdf
They are also going to order that death certificate for the 15 year old.  Will keep you posted.

Why would you pay for a copy when it is free online?

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1911/05392/4505440.pdf

Name   KATHLEEN OCONNELL
Date of Death   1911
Group Registration ID   5180872
SR District/Reg Area   Limerick
Deceased Age at Death   15

Debra  :)
There was a inquest into the train accident death which appeared in thr Limerick Chronicle. Unfortunately the coverage of that paper starts too late on Irish Newspaper Archives.
Perhaps the paper would be willing to help.

Kate appears on page 84
http://www.limerickcity.ie/Library/LocalStudies/ObituariesdeathnoticesetcfromtheLimerickChronicle/Alphabeticallistingsofobituariesdeathnoticesetc/alphabetical1%20C.pdf

I found this from your post... thanks


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Re: Kathleen O'Connell (murdered young?) M: Alice Kennedy; F:Patrick O'Connell
« Reply #22 on: Thursday 25 July 19 15:08 BST (UK) »
I was thinking the same Debra.

There is a Katie here - parents Patrick and Mary but more siblings than described.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Charleville/Rathgroggan_South/421547/

I posted this in response to reply #17 but then there were more posts but it is a bit confusing with all the quotes.

Are the parents Patrick and Alice definitely proven?

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Re: Kathleen O'Connell (murdered young?) M: Alice Kennedy; F:Patrick O'Connell
« Reply #23 on: Thursday 25 July 19 15:15 BST (UK) »
Wondering if this could be the answer to the murder rumour - with the male witness involved?

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Re: Kathleen O'Connell (murdered young?) M: Alice Kennedy; F:Patrick O'Connell
« Reply #24 on: Thursday 25 July 19 15:17 BST (UK) »
There was a inquest into the train accident death which appeared in thr Limerick Chronicle. Unfortunately the coverage of that paper starts too late on Irish Newspaper Archives.
Perhaps the paper would be willing to help.

Kate appears on page 84
http://www.limerickcity.ie/Library/LocalStudies/ObituariesdeathnoticesetcfromtheLimerickChronicle/Alphabeticallistingsofobituariesdeathnoticesetc/alphabetical1%20C.pdf

Found the inquest! Thanks - posted on here somewhere.

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Re: Kathleen O'Connell (murdered young?) M: Alice Kennedy; F:Patrick O'Connell
« Reply #25 on: Thursday 25 July 19 15:19 BST (UK) »
John thinks his father, Patrick, was born in 1905 - later than Kathleen.  There were only two other siblings, Jack and Kathleen.  And he remembers they lived in Charleville.

In that case the family of Patrick O'CONNELL and Alice KENNEDY detailed previously in this thread is not the right family as they had ten children and didn't live in Charleville.

Debra  :)

Oh no!  what a coincidence - back to the drawing board.  About to get death cert to see if any more clues on there (Kate train victim),

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Re: Kathleen O'Connell (murdered young?) M: Alice Kennedy; F:Patrick O'Connell
« Reply #26 on: Thursday 25 July 19 15:29 BST (UK) »
The train accident was in 1905 and that Kate was 24 yrs.
This does not fit with your first post  :-\

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1905/05575/4565818.pdf
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