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Thomas Albert Holmes & Margaret Davies marriage
« on: Thursday 25 July 19 14:05 BST (UK) »
Thomas Albert Holmes was born 24 July 1857 Findon West Sussex. Margaret Davies born abt 1861 Malpas Cheshire. On ancestry 1881 census Thomas Albert Holmes (vessel: 6 Piece:2672 Folio:83 page number: 9 Cheshire and a  servant  . Then in 1891 census Thomas Albert Holmes marriage to Margaret Davies ( vessel:9 piece:2109 folio:149  District Shropshire and head of house.

If Anyone can help me find the marriage I'll be  grateful, I have looked Between the 10 years cannot find no marriage records what so ever.

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Re: Thomas Albert Holmes & Margaret Davies marriage
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 25 July 19 15:40 BST (UK) »
Just a thought - have you obtained any of the children's birth certificates?  :-\

OK I can see that mother's maiden name is listed as Davies - but that could be her maiden name and Thomas Albert was her second husband.
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Re: Thomas Albert Holmes & Margaret Davies marriage
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 25 July 19 15:48 BST (UK) »
You just beat me to it BumbleB -- I was going to say the same thing.

So Rusty -- if Margaret had been married before then it would be her first married name shown on her marriage to Thomas.

I see that the eldest son was 6 years old in 1891 -- so if he is THEIR son -- then there is only a small 'window' in which they married. He was also born in Malpas -- Margaret's apparant birth place - before the family moved to Whitchurch. That MAY be relevant (may not - but you never know!) I mean that they are likely to have married in that area.
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Re: Thomas Albert Holmes & Margaret Davies marriage
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 25 July 19 15:57 BST (UK) »
1911 - Thomas Albert has died - Margaret says that she has been married for 24 years, 9 children, 7 still alive.  Eldest daughter, Mary Eleanor, is aged 25 - birth registration December quarter 1885 in Whitchurch Registration District.  But the 1901 census shows an older brother to Mary Eleanor, George Albert, registered June quarter 1884.  Both registration show mother's maiden name as Davies.

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Re: Thomas Albert Holmes & Margaret Davies marriage
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 25 July 19 16:00 BST (UK) »
Yes -- George A Holmes was on 1891 census aged 6, born Malpas, same place as his mother.
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Re: Thomas Albert Holmes & Margaret Davies marriage
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 25 July 19 16:03 BST (UK) »
A bit of a discrepancy in the number of years she says she was married and birth of eldest child. Unless she was subtracting year of marriage from year she was widowed.
Or maybe they didn't marry for some reason (one still had living spouse) but just lived together
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Re: Thomas Albert Holmes & Margaret Davies marriage
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 25 July 19 16:07 BST (UK) »
George Albert baptised 25 June 1884 at Malpas Parish Church - Abode Beeston Bunbury? -- Parents were Thomas Albert Holmes and Margaret. He was a Groom.

Hence he was their child - all things being equal marriage should have been BEFORE June 1884!
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Re: Thomas Albert Holmes & Margaret Davies marriage
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 25 July 19 16:30 BST (UK) »
Two other baptisms at Malpas:

Mary Eleanor - 28 October 1885 - TA and M said to be of Kyddington (I was going to suggest that this is Cuddington, but not sure) - Groom

Archibald Granville - 25 May 1890 - TA & M said to be of Baschurch - Coachman


Added:  Not the Cuddington I was thinking of (near Northwich) but Cuddington Heath near Malpas  :)
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Re: Thomas Albert Holmes & Margaret Davies marriage
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 25 July 19 16:43 BST (UK) »
I have got my Great grandads birth certificate Granville Archibald Holmes he was born baschurch Shropshire and mother Margaret Holmes formally Davies.
Margaret Davies her birth is not  available as well only got abt 1861 malpas Cheshire
Her father was George Davies and mother Sarah Downs ?
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