Identifying the right WILLIAM THURSTON

[tonythurston]

I bought the birth certificate of Francis. It confirms William THURSTON born ~1829 -1831 in Essex (great Baddow?) and Francis Eliza FROGLEY (1834-1915, born London) had a son Francis Arba (born 1873, Lambeth, the last child). Census records indicate they were living together as a family in Lambeth.

I am stuck on identifying William so I can buy his birth certificate and identify his parents to take my search further. His date of birth is earlier than GRO records and various records indicate different birth places in Essex .... so I am stuck. To add to my confusion there appear to be two William Thompson Thurston's born in 1826 and 1828 and other siblings born in Heigham and Hardingham in Norfolk

Many thanks for your kind suggestions

[trish1120]

What is Williams Fathers name/occp on the M/C to Frances?

Trish

[tonythurston]

I have the birth cert of Francis Arba, father William Thurston, mother Frances Thurston, formerly Frogley, registered 22 Feb 1873 at Lambeth church 1st, William is a carman, living 3 Jacksons Gardens, Carlisle St, Lambeth, Surrey - thank you

[ciderdrinker]

Hi
it doesn't look like William and Frances married.
No sign of William before that 1871 census.
There is a couple James and Pheobe Thurston baptising their children late at Heybridge 16 Sep 1835
Emma King Thurston born 1.1.1819
Caroline 13.12.1820
Sarah 25.3.1824
William born 8 May 1828


1841 Bardfield Essex
James excise officer 59 N
Pheobe 51 Essex for the rest
then female 22
female 17
male 13
female 11

other baptisms for the couple
Ann born 2 .6.1811 bapt 30 Nov 1814 Wethersfield
Charles born 23.2.1813 bapt 30.11.1814 Wethersfield
Robert and James at Wethersfield 9.1.1817 and 1.4.1815 bapt 16 Sep 1818
Jane 20.3.1831 Hatfield Peverel


Ciderdrinker

[trish1120]

Thanks for that as I couldnt find a Marriage either. Or the Family in 1861 Census even without a surname

[ciderdrinker]

Hi
Yes it would be helpful if there was one,so much easier but sometimes they just don't think about future generation!

If it is the right couple
James Thurston married Pheobe King 24.4.1809 at Little Brickhill Bucks
James is buried 2 Nov 1847  Sible Hedlingham  age 65 and Pheobe is a servant born 1787 widow on the 1851 census Castle Hedlingham

Still can't see William 1851/1861.


ps eldest son for William and Frances looks like James born 1852 at Clacton Essex.

Ciderdrinker

[tonythurston]

Thank you - this was my confusion -

William Thompson [Thurston] Birth Date 24 Aug 1828
Birth Place Norfolk, England Gender Male
Event Type Christening
Father Daniel Thurston, carpenter
Mother Maria Thurston
Abode Chapel Street, Crooks Place, Norwich
Baptism Date 7 Sep 1828
Baptism Place Heigham, Norfolk, England
Denomination Baptist
Piece Title Piece 0647: Heigham, Norwich, Rehoboth Chapel (Baptist), 1796-1836

Similar location different parents - there is another W Thompson T born 1826 died 1828

[tonythurston]

ps eldest son for William and Frances looks like James born 1852 at Clacton Essex.

I agree James the eldest and Francis the youngest - spanning 21 years - can you see others and where should I be looking please?

[MaureeninNY]

Maybe have a look at the family of William and Frances WILLIAMS living in Newton Cheshire on the 1861.(Ancestry)
Piece: 2991; Folio: 53; Page: 18

James Williams  11
 George Williams  4
 Walter Williams  2
 Emily Williams  5 mo

Maureen