Sarah Elizabeth Caron

[Jockwatt]

The certificate, Peter Joseph Caron & Margaret Ann Perry West London 1c 84, I now have - BUT -

Surely this is a bit late for my Peter Joseph who I believe was born in Bethnal Green in 1806 the son of Henri Caron and Marie Barbe Lefevre, especially since he appears to have had at least four children by Margaret Perry !

[osprey]

Marriage cert gives father as Peter Joseph, not Henry. Possibly more than one son called Peter Joseph born to Peter & Elizabeth. There is a baptism 9 July 1806 at St Matthew, Bethnal Green date of birth 20 Jan 1806 but also a baptism at St John of Jerusalem, Hackney 30 Sept 1832 date of birth noted as reputed 10 June 1824, address 10 Mutton Lane.

1841 census Pleasant Place HO107/692/7 folio 9 pg 11
Peter Carron 65 silk weaver F (foreign parts)
Elizabeth 55
Peter 17
Henry 7

Peter born 1824 then married Rebecca Spring Mantor 19 Dec 1844 at St John, Hackney, his address West Street. According to settlement documents from LMA dated 25 July 1858, he deserted Rebecca - he is noted as aged 34 an actor at the City of London Theatre, goes by the name of Harmer.. he left her 6 months ago and agreed to allow her 10 shillings a week, he now stopped it.  He says in his reply he was born in Mape Street.

[osprey]

possible burial for first Peter at Christchurch, Spitalfields as Peter James Caron 15 March 1807 aged 1 year 1 month.

 

[Jockwatt]

Please forgive me, but what is LMA ?

[osprey]

London Metropolitan Archives and the online records can be accessed via Ancestry. It has scans of original documents and parish registers, so you can see both of Peter Joseph's marriage entries without buying the certificates.

1851 census 5 Norton Street HO107/1540 folio 77 pg 70
Peter Joseph Caron head mar 80 silk weaver b. France
Elizabeth wife 70 b. Bethnal Green
P son  mar 28? musician b. Bethnal Green 
R dau mar 29 b. Scotland
M son 17 musician b. Bethnal Green

[Jockwatt]

More and more it seems to me that my Peter (Joseph) Caron who named himself Harmer was the father of Mary Elizabeth Caron, born January 1867 in Bethnal Green (who called herself Dolly Harmer).
Does anyone have any other theories on that?

[osprey]

certainly looks that way!

death regs
James Henry Coran 2 dec qtr 1867 St Luke vol 1b pg 472
Margaret Caroline Caron 6 jun qtr 1868 Whitechapel vol 1c pg 225
Pierre Joseph Caron 34 dec qtr 1893 Manchester vol 8d pg 171
Sarah Elizabeth Harmer-Caron 64 jun qtr 1932 Manchester North vol 8d pg 585

Margaret Caroline Caron age 6 was buried 27 June 1868 City of London & Tower Hamlets Cemetery

Pierre Joseph, the son, married Martha Bentley 15 Jan 1883 at St John, Blackpool - on Lancashire Online parish Clerks
http://www.lan-opc.org.uk/Search/indexp.html

[Jockwatt]

Thanks for that, Osprey - it could prove to be most helpful.

[Jockwatt]

I now know that Peter Joseph Caron, on 31 January 1859 in Holborn, married Margaret Ann Perry (I have the certificate).

BUT, I need help in finding the above Peter's birth! His father was Peter (probably Anglisied from Pierre) Joseph Caron, who I am hoping was the son of Henri Caron who came to London as a Huguenot refugee.