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Offline Essnell

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Historical House
« on: Saturday 10 August 19 00:45 BST (UK) »
Hi   

I would like to know what records I would need to look for to find the history behind an historical house. The one I am looking for was most likely part of a very large Estate.

I am hoping to find records of who lived in it between 1840 and 1900.

Thanks for any ideas.

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Re: Historical House
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 10 August 19 03:37 BST (UK) »
It may be an idea to post details you know as many people have access to many things not online & the more info. out there the more help available?

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Re: Historical House
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 10 August 19 06:56 BST (UK) »
 Hi Annie, 

The house is Shanbally House.  It is in North Tipperary. The Townland is Shanbally.

I am trying to find out who either owned it and or who lived in it between  1840 and the end of the century .   Was it used as a private home or did it have some other use at the time?    Were the O'Calligans involved? 

 If I can find this information it may be of assistance in verifying of some records. 

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Re: Historical House
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 10 August 19 07:14 BST (UK) »
A quick google of  shanbally house tipperary gives results like

http://landedestates.nuigalway.ie/LandedEstates/jsp/property-show.jsp?id=4402
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Re: Historical House
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 10 August 19 07:19 BST (UK) »
Click on Families 'O'  and you get...
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Re: Historical House
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 10 August 19 07:42 BST (UK) »
Researching: Cuthbertson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Australia; Hunter – Co. Derry; Jackson – Co. Derry, Scotland & Canada; Scott – Co. Derry; Neilly – Co. Antrim & USA; McCurdy – Co. Antrim; Nixon – Co. Cavan, Co. Donegal, Canada & USA; Ryan & Noble – Co. Sligo

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Re: Historical House
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 10 August 19 08:26 BST (UK) »
The 1901 and 1911 census records will give lots of information on the property (number of rooms, buildings, etc.)
Here's an example of the family- Smithwick family:
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tipperary/Ballymackey/Shanbally/1701135/
Head of household is a farmer & J.P., there are 4 female servants in the household on census night, 23 rooms in house, etc.
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai003900933/
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 10 August 19 08:37 BST (UK) »
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Re: Historical House
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 18 August 19 13:42 BST (UK) »
HI Everyone ,

Thankyou all for all the links.

This is all great information.  I have relatives linked to both Shanbally Castle and to Shanbally House but I am looking for  better evidence than just a mention in a birth record.   or such.  I am hoping to see if I can work out if Shanbally House was a largeish establishment and if the Owners would have employed a number of servants etc. and if those could be traced.  Would there have been servants quarters and  possibly stables and a coach house etc.   
John Smithwick was there in 1901 but who was the owner or occupier in about 1840  to 1890.  finding that would be a great help.


Thanks again everyone...... Essnell    I shall look up all the links asap.  There are quite a few.     
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