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alwen cottages
« on: Tuesday 13 August 19 16:17 BST (UK) »
hi my grand dad's brother was born at 6 alwen cottages, on the birth certificate it says cerig-y-drudrion, am wondering if these cottages still exist in that town or whether they are in any other parishes.  my great grand dad morris edwards lived in frongoch 1901 and cefyn brith 1911 (that was from memory) also when i was young in the 1950 we drove through a valley which was going to be flooded to become a reservoir for liverpool.  my mom pointed to a building and said that is where a family member lived.  could alwen cottages be beneath this water now.

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Re: alwen cottages
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 13 August 19 17:26 BST (UK) »
They  could well be under the reservoir:

https://goo.gl/maps/vxdWPZSmNQvxYSxr5

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Re: alwen cottages
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 13 August 19 18:40 BST (UK) »
Depending on the date... Alwen Terrace is extant and seems to be a terrace of 6 originally being reservoir workers housing.  South-east of Alwen Bungalow here.
https://coflein.gov.uk/en/site/85178/details/alwen-water-scheme-cerrigydrudion.
The reservoir looks like it was completed before 1950 though.

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Re: alwen cottages
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 13 August 19 19:39 BST (UK) »
I read somewhere that it was planned or started in the 1930s. 

Unfortunately, the old  25 ins OS maps for the area aren't available online.  Denbighshire Archives might have something.

http://archives.denbighshire.gov.uk/

(Cerrigydrudion parish was in the old Denbighshire - https://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/DEN/Cerrigydrudion   although it was in the Corwen RD )
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Re: alwen cottages
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 13 August 19 19:44 BST (UK) »
A list of docs about Alwen in Denbighsire Archives:

https://tinyurl.com/yxw8qnww

It includes info about the inauguration of the reservoir in 1921



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Re: alwen cottages
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 13 August 19 19:53 BST (UK) »
Depending on the date... Alwen Terrace is extant and seems to be a terrace of 6 originally being reservoir workers housing. 

The Terrace (1-6) is just to the NE of the reservoir. No mention of the cottages. See Post Code finder https://www.royalmail.com/find-a-postcode
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Re: alwen cottages
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 13 August 19 22:31 BST (UK) »
Perhaps with Fron Goch mentioned there is a separate memory of the River Treweryn/Llyn Celyn from the early 1960s,used to supply Liverpool.

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Re: alwen cottages
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 14 August 19 15:01 BST (UK) »
According to ScoOOp's link:
Alwen Water Scheme was constructed for the Corporation of Birkenhead between 1911 and 1921 to provide a water supply and comprises Alwen Reservoir, Dam (nprn 85182) and Filter House (nprn 85183). Various housing is associated with the scheme: a manager’s house (nprn 408482), terrace of workers’ housing (nprn 85249) and barracks (nprn 85248) for the construction workers. 
Another source says it now also supplies part of North East Wales, also construction start date of 1909.
1-6 Alwen Terrace listed on Royal Mail database, near the dam, postcode LL21 9TT.
1910  6 inch map (Nat. Lib. Of Scotland) has it marked 'Reservoir in course of Construction'. Latest map on NLS (1949)  show the houses, but not named:

 https://maps.nls.uk/view/102180897#zoom=4&lat=3395&lon=7351&layers=BT

There is an Alwen Cottage at LL21 0ER , junction of A5 and A494 just outside Corwen, to North West.

Had problem creating link – might not work.

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Re: alwen cottages
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 14 August 19 15:21 BST (UK) »
Hi
Link has worked. Had trouble also with link to Streetmaps. On Zoom Level 1 it shows and names the Terrace. Another try here:

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/map.srf?x=296168&y=352666&z=106&sv=296168,352666&st=4&ar=y&mapp=map.srf&searchp=ids.srf&dn=659&ax=296168&ay=352666&lm=0

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