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Robert Chapman - Journeyman Miller - Irish or Scottish
« on: Thursday 15 August 19 22:04 BST (UK) »
I've been researching Robert Chapman- a 4X Great grandfather and found an intriguing issue.

Census 1841 - aged about 45
Born Kincardineshire
 Residing in Cowieswells,Dunnotar parish with wife Mary Stewart ( wed 12 Nov 1831 )
Children : David , Stewart ,Jane & John

Census 1851 has Robert aged 52 living in Fordoun working as a Corn Miller living with Mary Stewart & Stewart, Joan & John.
However he is listed as born in Kilkenny, Ireland??

This is corroborated again in 1861.
Robert aged 63 living in Laurencekirk as a Miller with Mary Chapman & Jane aged 26 now.
Born in Dublin, Ireland now

1871 - we have Robert aged 73 sadly widowed living in Marykirk as a Journeyman Miller still listed as Born in Ireland.

Now his Death Cert in 20 March 1881 has his parents as Robert Chapman ( Chelsea Pensioner ) & Jean Edwards

Only Robert Chapman  I can find is born 12 Dec 1798 in Kincardine to John Chapman & Jean Edward.

Could anyone shed some possible answers to this question of birth place & family?

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Re: Robert Chapman - Journeyman Miller - Irish or Scottish
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 15 August 19 22:07 BST (UK) »
Who is informant on death certificate? it's not uncommon to find errors.

Have you looked at original census records or transcriptions to verify place of birth written?
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Re: Robert Chapman - Journeyman Miller - Irish or Scottish
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 15 August 19 23:20 BST (UK) »
Hi,
I checked on original records for the birthplace.

The informant was his son David but an error is possible like you say.

Any help is appreciated though

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Re: Robert Chapman - Journeyman Miller - Irish or Scottish
« Reply #3 on: Friday 16 August 19 07:33 BST (UK) »
His father was a soldier & most probably a miller also & that trade ran in families, possibly posted to Ireland during the French war then returned to Scotland.

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Re: Robert Chapman - Journeyman Miller - Irish or Scottish
« Reply #4 on: Friday 16 August 19 09:43 BST (UK) »
If that is the case would Irish birth records exist for a child born during to British military?
Not had much joy finding Pension Records for John ( Robert) Chapman either

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Re: Robert Chapman - Journeyman Miller - Irish or Scottish
« Reply #5 on: Friday 16 August 19 10:01 BST (UK) »
If that is the case would Irish birth records exist for a child born during to British military?
Civil registration of births in Ireland started 1864. For military records of birth-
Most records of births in the armed forces are held by the General Register Office. British Army regimental registers of births and baptisms start in 1761 in England and Wales and around 1790 in other countries, and continue to 1924. They include births in the United Kingdom and abroad.
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/help-with-your-research/research-guides/birth-marriage-death-armed-forces/
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