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Trying to Trace Parents and Grandparents of John Todd
« on: Wednesday 04 September 19 18:42 BST (UK) »
John Todd was born in Billington in 1780, he married Hannah Wearmouth in Bishopwearmouth in 1801. John was a baker with ten children living in HAT CASE Sunderland. he died in 1864. I'm trying to find any information on John and his parents and grandparents. What was life like as a baker during this period. Was William Todd`born 1762 Johns Father and did he sail on a ship called the Alemene. I'm really stuck, can anyone assist please?

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Re: Trying to Trace Parents and Grandparents of John Todd
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 04 September 19 19:18 BST (UK) »
Hi fincagirl,

Is this John Todd a direct line in your family? His father would have had to be young at 18 to be having a son in 1780 are you sure of the connection as there are many John Todd's and William Todd's.

The Bishops Records Christenings, Marriages and Funerals for that area are the best method to align all the pieces.

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Re: Trying to Trace Parents and Grandparents of John Todd
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 05 September 19 11:39 BST (UK) »
Hi Neil,
I'm not 100% sure of any connections but I am almost  sure that John Todd born Billingham 1780 is the GGG Grandfather of my husband Geoffrey Mark Todd (20.10.59) The Male TODD line goes like this (Father to father)
Geoffrey Mark Todd son of Malcolm Todd son of Robert Septimus Todd son of Thomas Todd son of William Todd son of John Todd. The link is almost certainly Sunderland.I am almost 99 percent sure that John Todd a baker by trade fathered at least ten children,the youngest of whom was William born 1824.(master mariner) But when it comes to the father of John Todd things get very vague and the only possibility I can find is a William Todd born in Sunderland in 1762 married to Mary?  I also found a mariners record for a William Todd born 1762,Scotland who seems to be connected to a ship called the Alemene around 1795. Is this the same William and is he the father of John Todd?I agree there are Todds everywhere (sly ole Foxes heh!)

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Re: Trying to Trace Parents and Grandparents of John Todd
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 05 September 19 12:10 BST (UK) »
Bapt of Daug Margaret 09 Oct 1808 (3rd Daug) has John of Billingham**

Are you sure he died 1864?

I can find them (John/Hannah) 1841 Census but not 1851/1861.
A tree has a Census for John 1861 but he is a Tailor not Baker.

Ok got him in 1851 John Todd, Late Baker, age 78, born 1773 Billingham
Living with Daug Margaret and Family

John TODD
Baptism 30 Aug 1772, Billingham, Durham
Father: JOHN Todd
Mother: JANE
(Entry on Anc)

Looking at Familysearch.Org Siblings of John
JANE 24 APR 1774
WILLIAM 04 JAN 1776
MARGARET 30 MAR 1778

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Re: Trying to Trace Parents and Grandparents of John Todd
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 05 September 19 12:20 BST (UK) »
More likely Death Reg;
 
TODD, JOHN age 82*** 
GRO Reference: 1853  M Quarter in SUNDERLAND  Volume 10A  Page 183

Daug Margaret in 1841 Census
Wm Tindle   33 Mariner
Margaret Tindle   33
Robert Tindle 5
John Tindle 3
William Tindle 2 mths
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Re: Trying to Trace Parents and Grandparents of John Todd
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 05 September 19 12:43 BST (UK) »
Familysearch.Org Extracted Record;


Marriage;
John TODD to Jane HARKLEY
27 Jun 1771, Billingham, Durham, England

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Re: Trying to Trace Parents and Grandparents of John Todd
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 05 September 19 13:01 BST (UK) »
Just a word of caution. Please dont follow others Trees if that is where you got the info of John being born 1780.
Do your own research.
Also the 1841 Census is not accurate with peoples ages.

Also none of the John Todds who died 1864 are old enough to have married 1801.
The GRO now has Birth Reg with Mothers maiden names from Sept 1837 and Death Regs with ages from the same time.
You have to register but its free to search.

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Re: Trying to Trace Parents and Grandparents of John Todd
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 05 September 19 13:15 BST (UK) »
Death Reg;
TODD, HANNAH age 66 
GRO Reference: 1847  D Quarter in SUNDERLAND UNION  Volume 24  Page 233
(1881)
 
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Re: Trying to Trace Parents and Grandparents of John Todd
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 05 September 19 13:27 BST (UK) »
HANNAH Weremouth christened 10 FEB 1781 Stanhope to JOSEPH/ANN

Marriage;
10 Dec 1761, St Thomas the Apostle, Stanhope
Joseph WEARMOUTH to Ann WHITE
Notes; He signs as WARMOTH
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There is a Burial of JOSEPH Wearmouth 12 Jun 1799 age 22, Son of Joseph/Ann
Died 10 June. Father a Miner. Mother late WHITE
Abode Pinfoldhouse
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